35005 Canadian Pacific

Great photos those. Interesting views of the frames from above.

 

My favourite thing is you can see where the volunteers had squeezed under the frames, as they are certain bits of metal are alot cleaner than others, where it's rubbed off on there clothes.


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CANADIAN PACIFIC - JULY UPDATE - Mid Hants official

http://www.watercressline.co.uk/art...-july-update/3b2fd21f5d900012705af5dfdceee706

 

Good to see progress being made, I look forward to seeing the Can Pac running again, as I've always been rather fond of the Merchant Navy Class.

One thing I do wonder though is what role will it play when back on the MHR. As it seems whenever the idea of a MN running on preserved railway crops up on this forum, you get ambushed by droves of people lecturing how it's impractical and just not ideal, certainly for shorter running lines.

In the reality of matters (as much as I like the MN class), I do agree with them for the most part. So it does seem strange for so many people to line up, favouring it so...

One can't help but think the restoration of Sir Frederick Pile might have been a better for example, though I know it's not owned by MHR and therefore might not have been ideal for the overall project.

Believe me I'm not complaining though, I'm very much in full support of the project too and look forward to see the old gal strutting her stuff.

Just realistically considering the future practicalities once the intial fanfare has past...

 

I believe it is, IIRC the owner has gifted it to the MHR!

 

It will attract many people to the MHR as well as providing an income from visiting other preserved railways.
Yes it is more costly to run then most, although by being solely owned by MHR there are no hire fees. It is also about providing what people want to see, the interest Clan Line had at the last Spring Gala was enormous.

 

Don't forget the MHR paid £xxxx.xx amount for the loco sometime ago with only a few years left on the boiler ticket. If the loco wasn't overhauled again. It would of been a very expensive loco to buy for a short period of time it was in service at the MHR.

 

A Merchant Navy doesn't just attract tourist its also attracts youth! Last September I was looking for a project to get involved with (not just railways I was looking at) and getting to work on a Merchant Navy was the trump card that got me to the MHR. Having the most powerful express engine built by the Southern Railway to play with does get young people excited. I was working on her today and 3 of the 6 volunteers were under 30 which is important if you want the MHR to survive. You dont view locomotives in terms of making money.

 

Pardon me, but why is she parked up on such oddly laid rails? It looks like they're on their sides

 

35005 is a very special engine to me and also to Yeti because of what it did on the main line in the real days of steam. Not only was it our first 100 mph engine (105 down Roundwood on 15th May 1965 but it also got close to 3,000 ihp on a climb to MP31 on the 530pm down during the 'race to Basingstoke' in June 1965.

So I for one will be bashing the MHR every chance I have when it gets back

Don

 

Don't - it normally hurts if you bash something lol!

 

How much more expensive is 35005 than 34007? having fired 34016, 34105 and 35005 there actually wasnt much in it, you dont need to run with a big fire and you are not running at full regulator , so do not need as much steam, so you use less water and coal, i certainly can not remember having to rake the tender out on the last run to find enough coal, unlike some of the smaller engines when you came up the hill on the last run firing slack , and hoped that you would have enough to get you over the top

 

Oh I see, I did not know that. Well I doubly hope it gets worked soon now, should be very once it's up and running again.

Since it's named after Sir Frederick Pile maybe they can get a grant or an appeal going to restore itin his honour, though I must confess I don't know much about the man himself, could anyone tell me his significance? I'm sure the Southern Railway didn't name after him for nothing.

 

I have often thought along those same lines myself, in fact I'm sure I recall watching a documentary that said because the boiler was so efficient, the fireman could find himself with little to do, firebox wise.

Certainly I've always reasoned that if you have enough experience and know the loco and it's design well, then with proficient handling you could get it to use around as much coal and water as a Light Bulleid Pacific would, roughly around the same anyway.

 

You'd use more lighting up because the grate is bigger and has to be covered to start with - once in steam, there probably isn't so much in it to do equivalent work. So the key to efficiency would be in utilisation, i.e. running large numbers of days concurrently. If it was, for example, used weekends only and then went cold midweek, it is going to become pretty expensive.

Tom

 

Back in 2004(maybe '5) 35005 and 45231 seemed to do the entire summer service between them (waits for pedant corrections), because I kept hearing her from the office I worked in at the time. Certainly wasn't being got out for weekends and left to go cold. I'm sure that a few members of this forum have a very good idea of what she'll cost to run.

Keeping with the theme of large Southern locos on the MHR, I wonder where 850 fits in the coal consumption scale. Even smaller grate than a Light Pacific, but a different type of fire needed, and much less similarity than between the Bulleids.

 

from my own experience on 35005, i would top up the back corners and round the box, at Alton, once underway throw 6 or 7 at the front and sides , then about another 5 each side 4 or 5 under the door, injectors on to keep below blowing off, then that would often do until just before hampshire hunt, 4 more under the door , injectors on and we would go over the top with water in the top nut and about 200 on the boiler gauge then you could sit there trickling in water and not blow off at each station stop on the std 4 you were firing vertually all the time until you got to hampshire hunt against the injector

 

I absolutely loved and thoroughly enjoyed firing 35005! I suppose that is why she is my favourite loco of all time! It was hard work and I looked forward to it all the time! I must be Gluten for punishment!

 

According to the latest issue of MHR news which arrive on my door step today. The MHR did look at putting 35005 back on the main line but after detailed consideration the MHR concluded it wasn't financially viable.