Moorlands and City Railway

There are two sides to every story and I thing most of us have been swayed away from your version due to the seemingly pointless sniping you continue to post, and not helped by saying things like "dreamy, impractical spotter types who have a tenuous grip on reality". I would suggest that like has been suggested to another member, you read that useful book, "How to win friends and influence people", You might just pick up a few pointers.
Post 45 http://www.national-preservation.com/threads/fire-brigade-union-strikes.307417/page-3#post-893787

 

Is he still at it? Just turn him off, works wonders

 

Where did I say CVR had dropped Ipstones? I said they had other more pressing concerns.
And I'm sorry for confusing the Goods Shed for the Signal Box. In my defence, it's been over 18 months since I visited as I've been busy helping to keep the CVR running.

As for the Waterhouses extension, I think we know what is involved. Yes it wont be easy, but preservation has overcome much bigger tasks such as Ffestiniog's Llyn Ystradau, Bluebell East Grinstead and GCR soon-to-come Loughborough Gap. The Council mentioned full support for Waterhouses in their masterplan for the area, so that's the first step taken. Might be a while before the second step is taken, but non of the other projects I mentioned happened over night!

You do continually knock the CVR and its volunteers. How many positive posts have you made towards us on here? How many times have you actually been positive towards CVR since you left? I'd like to to say you can count on one hand, but I doubt we can even do that. And this is the issue, people have come/gone from the CVR over the years and many we never hear from again. You though have continually popped up, especially since MCR was started, and I can't remember it ever being positive.

Also could you make your mind up why you've been banned from CVR please? Your post a few months back under your previous username said you were banned after falling out with individuals who then contrived against you. Last week it was because you failed to pay your subscription fees ontime, and so you were informed you weren't insured to work on the CVR. Now its because you cut a tree down. Seriously, move on. What are you achieving with all this?

 

I know the gentleman who produced the Manifold DVDs, and they are still available from him. If anyone wants the set let me know and I can get them.

 

I to do not bother to reply to C&K anymore hes like a dog chasing his own tail.

 

Ok, so Ipstones is kicked in the long grass for now. I didn't criticise, just corrected you over Waterhouses and as for being banned: they banned me for unpaid subs and thus working without insurance - so I was told. I rejoined about eight years later, then banned - or suspended, more like, about three years after that for cutting a tree down during veg clearance on Cheddleton level crossing that your caliph thought may upset local tree huggers and councillors. Judging by various photos on this site, I seem to have set the bar for tree cutting.
I came back as a volunteer a few months later and continued for three or four more years before leaving due to illness. As far as I am concerned there never was a falling out, you made that up.
A lot seems to have changed and I can think of several people who have been pushed out - one way or another since I have been gone and people on this site who I don't even know have told me I am currently banned; I am not going to send a memb. /app. form in to find out whether I am or not, I don't care.
I am certainly not against the CVR or it's members, just a little disappointed maybe that it will never be in the same league as the SVR, NYMR, Bluebell etc. As for MCR, yes, I am critical of that because I can see right through it and find it quite shocking that some others can't.

 

Its gone quiet for the last week.

 

For a change some photos of MCR/CVR Director Gregg Wilsons loco S160 5197 around the shed and yard. As you can see work is progressing on several fronts.

 

Tender was out in the yard later on looking like it was undergoing a water test.

 

The MCR has had another very public slagging off by the CVR shareholding parish council in this weeks Leek Post and Times. This failed project seems to have lost all credibility with local people.

 

Please could you post a link to the source

 

A pipe would be better.............................I'll get me coat..............don't bother ........I'll see myself out.

 

http://www.leek-news.co.uk Wednesday september 3rd 2014 "Council rails at bid to sell train shares" I cannot find it online yet, perhaps they don't publish all the stories on line at the same time.

 

Thank you, will check back and see later in the week.

 

Or perhaps the poster - like the journal - has misinterpreted the facts to suit his own agenda ?

 

For info. The article can be read at :- http://www.leek-news.co.uk/Ipstones...ares-Churnet/story-22869040-detail/story.html

 

I saw that Article in the Leek Post and Times the other day and I just knew that we'd hear from C&K on NP. It's too good an opportunity for him to pursue his personal crusade.

Never mind that we all know why the rails have been sold and so the article is just more disinformation.

The councillors have clearly got the wrong end of the stick, I wonder where they got that impression?

 

As thought the "critics" have been a little economic with the truth.

In simple terms the possibility of Cauldon Quarries providing a freight traffic has been postponed as the operating company is involved in a series of mergers which have resulted in the Government decision that one site must be disposed of - whether it be closed or sold to another company - and Cauldon is one of 2 sites that is affected by that.

The decision has yet to be made - and is expected to take some time to be made - so it stands to reason that the track to Cauldon will only be used by CVR services in the short to medium term. For operating reasons the CVR finds it better to operate as far as Ipstones (thus giving the chance to timetable more trains up the "branch") hence the Ipstones - Cauldon section lies unused for an uncertain length of time.

Rather than leave the track in situ the MCR has wisely agreed to sell the track to the CVR (which has operating rights over the MCR) as it is an asset which shareholders would complain about left unused or if "given" to the CVR hence the need for MCR to sell it and the CVR to buy it. There is no trickery here - simply a legal issue regarding the status of CVR and MCR and their respective rights in respect of trains operating between Leekbrook Junction and Ipstones.

The main difficulty for the public is that much of the confusion arises from the relationship between CVR and MCR whilst much of the problems for both companies is that their futures depend on decisions made by others and over which they have no control; they can only be reactive to those decisions and only pro-active in regard to their working relationships.

There are opportunities for future development that could have a beneficial future for the 2 railway companies but those opportunities depend on decisions made by (other) official bodies who take a long time to make and publish those decisions. Until those decisions are made both companies have to undertake "make-and-mend" decisions to keep themselves operational and provide at least a part of their intended future services - and that includes selling track for use elsewhere on either of the 2 railways..

 

Cauldon to ipstones was scrapped to generate money. The line to leekbrook would also have been scrapped if Cvr dont buy it. So oakamoor sidings have been scrapped as has the track to froghall junction to help pay for the track to ipstones.
Jonjon often says that the ipstones trips are profitable and oakamoor not as its not usable so makes sense to keep the profitable section. If CVR doesnt manage to raise the money required then what...... i take it the track to ipstones will then be scrapped as well? All this to pay for the line and transport and works order to get to leek to give a "destination" to cvr. Hope it works. Seems very risky to me. Lots of ifs and buts.

Then of course if they scrap ipstones they could then try for endon to keep a profitable weekend per month.