A2 60532 Blue Peter

Yes it is and I agree with you there.

 

Mr Hoskin is betting very heavily on steam continuing on the main line, yet it could well be a fragile existence, as Mr Smith discovered this summer, it would only take an unnecessary mishap for Network Rail to make life very difficult for operators. just supposing that mainline team did come to an end, what would be become of all his class 8 locos? i would suggest they would be an overlarge meal for heritage lines to swallow.

 

Mr Hosking has presumably assessed the risks and, whilst for most people the cost of this collection of locos would be beyond our reach, he has a little more money in the bank than the overwhelming majority of people in the country.

If steam is banned, he still has a collection of locos that most of us would be very glad to own, even if we couldn't operate them on the mainline.

 

Think long term he is heading towards his own house TOC, which would make operation of Tornado a possibility.

WCRC stance on it does nobody any favours, a SSE derivative with Tornado on it, just think, they could put 20 on it, and still fill it!!!

 

ref blue peter,after the durham mishap nelpg would only let drivers who had a familiarisation course conducted by them drive on the main line.i would suggest that the new owner gets in touch with nelpg and takes heed of any info that they have in regard to operation of b.p. on the main line.

 

Could somebody please remind me what the dispute is about between WCRC and its refusal to use Tornado.

 

Driving 60532 isn't that different. If you are familiar with driving an A4, then you are essentially familiar with Blue Peter and there are a fair number of drivers out there with experience of A4's.
Even I can drive it!

 

In simple terms the WCRC Safety Case covers all locomotives operated by WCRC - whether owned by WCRC or not - and therefore have to meet certain requirements in terms of both operation and maintenance. Tornado received attention from someone not approved by WCRC (under its Safety Case) and therefore was unable to be used by WCRC despite the fact that the individual performed a quality job in the work undertaken.

The important principle was that at the time of the work the individual was not on the WCRC approved contractor's list (I believe he was subsequently added to the WCRC list) hence the work fell outside the WCRC Safety Case.

Sadly it is not a dispute per se but a simple requirement (of the Safety Case) not being met.

 

Also sprach der Carnforth Völkischer Beobachter.

 

Doesn't explain why 61306 couldn't have been worked by wcr if it was being managed by the A1 trust, if the reports are correct.

 

But it does suggest that theres more too it then a safety case not being met ?

 

Do we have to go through all this again?! Please no!

 

I would prefer not either but Mr Kerr seems intent on living in cloud cuckoo land by offering the procedural theory we all know is not reality.

 

Course we do any opportunity to get at WCRC is welcomed on Nat Pres.

The simple fact is that no one on here knows the full story but hey it must be entirely down to those nasty people at WCRC...

 

So come on them as you obviously know what is 'reality'?

 

Wasn't tryinging to rock the boat with my earlier post just making the point that WC/Tornado issue's been done to death and most of us are fed up with hearing about it. Back to Everyones favorite A2 though, have to say this is great news, have a soft spot for 60532 ever since the 'Ayr Raider' tour when I turned 13. What a top birthday that was! I do wonder though did Mr Hosking never get a trainset as a kid and is possibly making up it now?!

 

What happened to John Noakes and Shep?