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60019 Bittern

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 6026 King John, May 30, 2010.

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  1. class8mikado

    class8mikado Part of the furniture

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    Another unusual combination would be Valances off the driving wheels, but left on over that ugly hole in front of the cylinders.... Garter blue, British railways on the tender....
     
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    pmh_74 Part of the furniture

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    It's worth remembering that LU has had ATP since forever (trainstops) which, combined with overlaps calculated according to the gradient, speed and braking capabilities of the train, should mean that a collision between two trains is pretty much impossible. (Yes, LU does damage a train now and again, but it's usually only low-speed bumps in depots.)
    NR with TPWS has caught up a bit, but it isn't everywhere and you'd be a brave person to sign to say you were satisfied there was virtually zero chance of a train on NR being rear-ended. Higher speeds / heavier other trains too.
    So, a different level of risk, which might be tolerable on NR given crashworthiness of modern stock, but unlikely to be if the vehicle under consideration has a timber frame. Whereas on LU, the risk is clearly lower, and thus acceptable.

    One other thing though... do any of the Belmond pullman carriages still have wooden body framing?
     
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  3. Muzza

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    As I understand it, 4489 Dominion of Canada was initially released to traffic in workshop grey, but with Apple Green wheels. This was only for a few weeks before the Garter Blue was decided on for the ‘Coronation’ A4s. So was never fully green.

    4496 (60008) went close to being Apple Green. It and 4495 Golden Fleece were built (or at least chosen) for the West Riding service. I believe that 4495 initially entered traffic in Apple Green before being repainted blue.
    4496 was blue from the start.

    I’m sure that none of the A4s that wore Apple Green have survived.

    Having said that, I would be thrilled to see Bittern painted that colour.


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    Well the Camden Town runaway...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-10964766
    FTAOD, I am entirely happy to travel on LU metals and have done so in a wooden-framed coach.
     
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    Did 60009 not enter traffic in Apple green?
     
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