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Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by 2857Harry, Sep 7, 2024.

  1. TH Railway Videos

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    WCR have been very honest about their stance.
     
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    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    Which appears to be, throwing a Tantum when told no, , No you will not get further exemptions, to fitting CDL, everyone else has agreed and are doing it,
    Then when faced with only having air braked stock that's already compliant, refuse to fit the air braking equipment to your own engines that have not got it already fitted, instead relying on third parties who have fitted air braking,
     
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    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    But their locomotives are already fitted with vacuum brakes.......??
     
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    acorb Part of the furniture

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    Blimey, wish I could remember more useful stuff each day than this!! ;)
     
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    30567 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    But that's not dishonest is it? It might be foolish, it might be non-commercial, it might be very unfortunate for those of us who think VT's way of complying with the ORR is pretty sensible and not rocket science, but it is not dishonest. Words have meaning and should be weighed carefully.
     
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    But Martin, the changed stance from ORR wasn’t “you must fit door retention by xx date”, as was done with TPWS.
    The changed assessment guidance for ORR inspectors reviewing RSR99 Reg 5 applications is something like “we want centrally controlled door retention, but we will consider alternatives”.

    Which ORR duly did for NYMR.
     
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    I am indeed, I have not once intended to come across as difficult rude.

    I have read all those challenges relating to my opinion and, given that unforuntely some (but not all) of my views seem to upset the high command on here, I have chosen to keep quiet on them and keep them to myself. I am very much as say it how it is person but at the same time I am mature enough and can read a room well enough to realise when perhaps that approach isn't suitable in any particular situation.
     
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    The views do not offend; the manner of their presentation sometimes does. It also amuses, but more in the sense of "laugh at" than "laugh with".
     
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    I don't, but what I meant by it was that, unless they are going to hire in locos, they need to looking at the situation without a stubborn attitude and realise that without some coach or loco modifications their current situation will not improve. I used the phrase 'be honest' loosely in place of a harsher that perhaps isn't suitable.

    Regarding the brakes, yes I meant air brakes to suit they mk2 stock.
    I know that, simply a mistake.
     
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    That is where I think it went wrong, it was the moment other operators began to show that it could be done and for a reasonable cost which made the ORR rethink their stance on granting futher exemptions.
    I don’t think that anyone is saying that WCR are being dishonest, but perhaps they need to be honed with themselves about their situation and accept that they need to take action to lift themselves out of the mess they find themselves in?
    Noted for the future, as I have said before I never once set out to offend whether it be with my views or how I present them.
     
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    Seemingly unusual is an arrival and departure from Carlisle Platform 1. Don't think I've done steam from it before, but it certainly limits options for the regulation record snap.
     
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    You do realise that facility exists to edit your post?
    I always review mine after posting, as invariably there’s a typo or error in there somewhere,.
     
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    This was the statement on Riley & Son FB two days ago - they were clearly happy with the testing ……
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    Yes I am surprised that some seem to have issues or surprise that certain locos or certain parts at times have recurring issues.

    At the airline we had a whole process called REACT that looked at components with higher than expected failure rates and tried, often totally unsuccessfully, introduce changes to improve reliability.
    We had rogue components and for that matter rogue aircraft that had far more issues than others. I guess this was like the "Friday afternoon car" that came off the production line before vast robotisation.

    And of course for those conspiracy theorists among you there is always the issue of how the most unreliable B747-136 in the fleet just happened to be a late aircraft change for the BA149 and was in Kuwait when blown up by the Iraq forces.
     
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    I do yes, however at the time I was rather busy so didn't have much time to proof read.
     
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    Can I ask that you read the post in question, nowhere in it do I Question West Coast 's honestly and I don't know where you got this from,
     
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    yet Ian's fleet runs day in day out in Scotland on a grueling road that will find out any engine quite quickly and yet there are posts suggesting running extra tours is a bit too much .
     
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    Ooh, some raw meat for the 9/11 & moon landing conspiracy theorists! :D

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