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Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od Oswald T Wistle, 6. Siječanj 2023..

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  1. Mike Wylie

    Mike Wylie New Member

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    If only everyone knew just how hard it is to operate steam on the mainline in 2023!

    On the face of it the current fire risk is low but the reality is somewhat different. Operators have responsibilities towards each other and the p way provider. It currently quite strangely falls in the grey area between 'show pony' and normal running. Look at how 45231 was worked yesterday for a clue. You can't just set fire to the world and then say its not our fault, it doesn't work like that.

    Nobody sets out to give customers a crap day out, that wouldn't be a very good business model would it? We have steam because there are a few people around who want it to be and they want it to be good but it has to be balanced against the realism of operating in the current times.
     
    Mike Wylie, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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    1020 Shireman, alts1985, Copper-capped i 23 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  2. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Can I like this more than once please?
     
    Matt37401, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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  3. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    A trip having a diesel on the back and then, after it broke down, being allowed to continue without it rather than having to wait for ages for a replacement epitomises the grey area.
     
    MellishR, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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  4. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    But if you look at it from an infrastructure viewpoint, the climb on the WCML had already been accomplished. Down hill to Carlisle and then the S & C where if something did happen the risk to NR infrastructure would be less, is a risk assessment decision.
    In aviation terms that is a little like when the LAX to LHR flight lost an engine shortly after take off and the captain decided to continue (safely) to LHR.
    Of course armchair and keyboard "experts" castigated that decision as well.
    Maybe next time a replacement diesel should be waited for and everyone of those 300 "who had their day spoiled" can get back about 4 hours late. I am sure all 300 would prefer that.
     
    Gladiator 5076, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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    Mick45305, RalphW i sgthompson se sviđa ovo.
  5. dublo6231

    dublo6231 Member

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    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - and on an open forum able to express it - one or two post’s however have been a bit too personal for my liking and dare I say bordering on vicious.

    We all share a passion for Steam (in what ever form it comes in) - maybe we should all remember that before attacking each other over that person’s opinions.

    It’s not a points scoring contest - no one wins.
     
    dublo6231, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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    MellishR, Linesider, 61994 i 6 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  6. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    Why does expressing a contrary opinion get taken as an attack on the original opinion? I know the internet seems to portray everything as black or white, or good or bad, but disagreeing with someones opinion is surely just a disagreement rather than an attack. As you say we are all entitled to our opinions and by the same token we can express our opinions of the opinions of others. It does not mean that hostility is involved.

    Peter
     
    torgormaig, 8. Lipanj 2023.
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  7. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    ‘Sir I might not necessarily agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it’
     
    Matt37401, 9. Lipanj 2023.
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    Romsey, Gladiator 5076, 35B i 5 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  8. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

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    You are the most patronising person I've ever had the misfortune to read posts from. When have I ever said I don't understand things can change at the last minute? It's happened to us well over 50 times in our touting history. I asked for the reasons to be communicated to the passengers by someone from the TOC. Is that unreasonable? You know nothing about me. I contribute a decent amount of money regularly to the 60007 group and bought flue tubes to help the restoration. Like many of the members I'm really disappointed seeing No7 run as a show pony. It's a beautiful powerful locomotive and such a shame to see how it's running at present.
     
    1020 Shireman, 11. Lipanj 2023.
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  9. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Fair enough if you think I’m being patronising, I don’t mean too, but I really think you should have a look at some of your previous posts and maybe re read and see how you come across as to how you might be seen?
    Can I respectfully remind you, you also don’t know me and some of my own endeavours with what I’ve done as regards to our heritage movement.
     
    Matt37401, 11. Lipanj 2023.
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  10. Britfoamer

    Britfoamer Well-Known Member

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    Britfoamer, 13. Srpanj 2023.
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  11. 2857Harry

    2857Harry Well-Known Member

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    2857Harry, 13. Srpanj 2023.
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    47406 se sviđa ovo.
  12. Britfoamer

    Britfoamer Well-Known Member

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    Or is it running as 45743 Nonsuch Islands? Thanks.
     
    Britfoamer, 13. Srpanj 2023.
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    3ABescot and 5944 like this.
  13. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

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    Oxenholme. IMG_3365.jpeg
     
    sgthompson, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  14. Julian Jones

    Julian Jones New Member

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    Looped at Tebay. It’s just started to rain…
     
    Julian Jones, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  15. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

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    It’s just departed the loop .
     
    sgthompson, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  16. Bodorganboy

    Bodorganboy Member

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    45699 near Holme
     
    Bodorganboy, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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    nige757, Mick45305, Steve Sienkiewicz i 1 drugoj osobi se sviđa ovo.
  17. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Any idea what the delay was?
     
    RalphW, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  18. Julian Jones

    Julian Jones New Member

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    The on board stewards indicated steaming issues.
     
    Julian Jones, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  19. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Thanks, seemed to be going well from the video near Holme.
     
    RalphW, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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  20. sgthompson

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    Low boiler pressure apparently , info from onboard contact .
     
    Last edited: 15. Srpanj 2023.
    sgthompson, 15. Srpanj 2023.
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