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Llangollen Railway

Rasprava u 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' pokrenuta od 14xx Lover, 4. Siječanj 2010..

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  1. 6A Resident

    6A Resident New Member

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    No, we dont know exactly what happened but at no point have you said sorry for this mess, sorry to the employees who have lost their jobs, sorry to the tax payers of north wales who funded grants from the welsh assembly government to help get the railway through the covid crisis even though at that point it must have been obvious that the railway was in severe financial crisis, and no sorry to the enthusiasts who funded the work on the unknown warrior, work that Llangollen railway did that was so shoddy that the locomotive was removed from the railway and has had to have the work the Llangollen railway did redone
    The engineers report on the state of the locomotive on the day it was to be removed from llan beggers belief
    Also nice to note that the head man showed his support for the railway by taking his new build project , and serviceable locomotive elsewhere, class real class
     
    6A Resident, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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  2. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

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    I agree. It is hard to tell. Space, cash needs/availability, traffic needs and plans will all matter.

    I can see some lines selling on their basketcases because of limited space, I can see some lines holding onto their basketcases because they are looking to expand or because there is another reason to hold onto it, I can also see where some lines decide to buy some basketcases because of future expansion plans (keep it for rainy day).

    I can see some lines selling on basketcases because they want/need the cash post-covid, I can see some lines buying stuff because it available.

    I wonder also about spares and perhaps buying a basketcase and stripping it for that.
     
    Monkey Magic, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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  3. jnc

    jnc Well-Known Member

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    Also the GWSR's.

    Noel
     
    jnc, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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  4. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Yes spares that was the other thing I meant to say in my post, along with the MK1s, genuine parts are not infinite. While preservation can and has produced most parts, they haven’t all of them. For example, (and happy to be corrected if I am wrong), nobody has built a new bogie for a MK1 yet.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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  5. Thompson1706

    Thompson1706 Part of the furniture

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    As I have said previously , if you can tell me how to outvote a clique of directors of which I was not a part , please let me know. They have all run away - I haven't.

    Bob.
     
    Thompson1706, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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    D1039, Hirn, P-J i 28 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  6. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    I’ll say this with my moderator hat off so there is no confusion. But, do you not think you are possibly attacking the one board member who is actually trying to do something about it?

    In an ironic way your post illustrates that by mentioning one director who took his ball home and just walked away. As an outsider here it seems to me that we have someone who could of also walked away. However, they knew the railway had problems and rather than do that, tried to salvage something for the future benefit of everyone. They could of just walked away and let the railway disappear but chose not too. I admire them for that.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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    MattK, Crawley Ben, P-J i 27 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  7. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    I said early on that for the benefit of the movement as a whole an emotion free cause analysis charting what happened may help others avoid Llangollen's current fate and the pain that the administration is causing

    I appreciate for some it is a very raw subject and will remain so for some time but I do hope all involved I hope will reflect on their involvement and learn from it
     
    Sidmouth, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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    Johnb, green five, std tank i 3 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  8. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    And taken their toys with them as well.
     
    5944, 11. Svibanj 2021.
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  9. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Which should say it all to any critic.
     
    Martin Perry, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  10. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Part of the furniture

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    Going back to the press release of the 28th April, the trust were aiming to obtain
    According to the bidspot link posted earlier, the function coach (M34584) hasn't had any bids on it so is still listed as £10k.
    The road railer is currently £24,750 (up from £22k)
    The telehander is currently £14,050 (up from £1,500)
    The 12t crane is currently £17,500 (up from £4k)
    E34537 (adapted BSK) is £16k (up from £12k)
    M4503 and M4858 (adapted TSOs) are £18,250 and £20,250 respectively (both up from £12k)
     
    Kje7812, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  11. Andy Williams

    Andy Williams Well-Known Member

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    One of the TSOs has a bid of £25,000.00 on it.
     
    Andy Williams, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  12. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Part of the furniture

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    Two of them! W4702 and M4643
    And the others are creeping up as well.
    Still no bids on the CK or RBR though.
     
    Kje7812, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  13. Alan Kebby

    Alan Kebby Well-Known Member

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    Yes as usual with these things, the serious bids only start coming towards the end.

    Presumably the CK isn’t in good condition if no one has bid. Someone might sneak in and try to get it cheap though.
     
    Alan Kebby, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  14. huochemi

    huochemi Part of the furniture

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    Is "Tram Museum brown" (E4472) really a recognised colour?
     
    huochemi, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  15. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Either that or not as operationally desirable for some railways.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  16. Alan Kebby

    Alan Kebby Well-Known Member

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    The SK is doing pretty well though.

    Starting prices now lowered for the CK and events coach.
     
    Alan Kebby, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  17. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Part of the furniture

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    In theory a SK has the same capacity as a TSO (if you count a compartment as 8 seat as per WR/SR convention).
    CKs have one less compartment and the style of seats in the first class mean they are 6 only really.
    Plus the photos suggest the CK needs a bit of touching up.
     
    Kje7812, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  18. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Exactly, plus not every railway offers 1st class.
     
    Pete Thornhill, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  19. marshall5

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    Only 48 seats in the CK
    Ray.
     
    marshall5, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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  20. Alan Kebby

    Alan Kebby Well-Known Member

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    Still useful extra seats
    Still useful extra seats even if you don’t charge more for the privilege. Several railways have first class stock without having a two tier pricing system.
     
    Alan Kebby, 12. Svibanj 2021.
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