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Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od NathanP, 19. Veljača 2025..

  1. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Something that they are not particularly good at. Only slowly are they realising that steam crews have sight lines much closer to the cess than on units.
     
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  2. 45698Mars

    45698Mars New Member

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    From what I see, in many locations, it's the trees that have been allowed to grow too close to the track that are more of a problem with signal sighting issues, something that Network Rail are not very good at dealing with.
     
  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    That's precisely the problem. Add to that the strikes to rolling stock that arguably NR is responsible for addressing and you can understand the annoyance.

    Statesman, Belmond and now Britannic Explorer stock carry a high end price tag for repair and repolishing that NR ignores at its peril.
     
  4. twr12

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    I believe there has been, for many years, a conspiracy between Network Rail, DfT & ORR to allow lineside vegetation to grow and not be controlled. It’s practically cartel behaviour.

    For NR & DfT it’s clearly cost cutting, but the Safety Regulator ORR is complicit by not doing anything to force NR to keep the lineside clear.

    It’s only a matter of time until a side window is smashed on a passenger train and a passenger is seriously injured.
    From ORR’s record, they would probably prosecute the train operator for not managing the risk of passengers sitting next to the window.
     
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  5. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    There is a loco support coach on the network that was struck so violently by a branch that the metal baffles on the top lights were bent back on themselves.

    OK, it wasn't a head but that's not the point. That close to a coach is too close.
     
  6. Keith Sergeant

    Keith Sergeant New Member

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    The Green Howards Nat Pres stalwart

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    Predates that.

    Many years ago I picked up a glossy brochure at KGX from Railtrack (remember them?) who said that they were creating a large, linear nature reserve by not going to BR levels of lineside management.
     
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  8. 3ABescot

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    More like a large, linear handout to themselves and their shareholders wrapped in thin, green, packaging
     
  9. 45698Mars

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  10. Oswald T Wistle

    Oswald T Wistle Well-Known Member Friend

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    We had some heavy overnight rain but that wasn't going to change the fire risk level, amber. LSL had chosen to amend their original plan and would add 61306 to the front of whatever diesel had headed the train from Leicester to Crewe. It remained to be seen how much work the B1 would do. It also remained to be seen which of LSL's varied diesel fleet would be the lead diesel, hopefully one with a more subdued livery.

    The morning's forecast was not good, a high chance of heavy showers, possibly thundery - oh goody! The prospects further north appeared worse, but it's only a forecast I told myself. I decided to go with the odds and stay in the south. My usual choice would be Leyland but the train was heading north and was scheduled to cross with a southbound stopper, so a no. Next choice Euxton Balshaw Lane, it's a bit of a wander from the car park over to the opposite platform especially if we got a thundery downpour, and if the train was to be switched to the fast line then there is no shot, so no again. Stations eliminated, that left an over bridge. The one at Charnock Richard offers limited parking close by and if it were to be teaming with rain it would be easy to record some video using phones.

    Maisie ate a hearty breakfast, as she does every morning and headed for the great outdoors as she does most days. Mrs W was up and about a few minutes before I left home and she was left as the one designated to pander to Maisie's needs.

    It was an uneventful journey, the sky was grey and heavy with a yellow tinge that is often indicative of a thunderstorm. The rain spotted on the windscreen but never seemed to get worse, behind me the sky continued to darken but to the south and west it was brighter, fingers crossed. The windsocks near the viaducts on the M65 hung limply. I parked by the side of the track, a track littered with large puddles. RTT revealed that the train was now approaching Warrington BQ and 3/4E. As it wasn't raining (and didn't look likely to - careful Oswald), I headed down to the bridge to prepare. Not long after I got there another guy arrived, and that was it.

    The Liverpool LS to Blackpool N headed north and onto the slow line at Balshaw Lane; it had a booked stop at Euxton Balshaw Lane and 61306 was due to follow. 61306 was thro' Wigan and running 6E. As 61306 appeared in the far distance the signal at Balshaw Lane was still red. The B1 trundled along waiting for the signal to clear, the signal flicked to amber as the train approached the bridge. Once under the bridge the driver cracked open the regulator and some "proper", if muted sounds, came from the B1 as it headed off. LSL had heard my plea as a black liveried 57002 was the lead diesel. As it approached the bridge it was quietly grumbling away to itself (possibly ETS). Another black 57, 57311 was on the back and was almost silent. The train headed north, white exhaust lifting nicely from the chimney, but difficult to make out in the grey murky light. As 61306 curved off to the left and onto the slow line a Euston train appeared on the up fast. I left the camera running and the last minute is for Pendolino fans (assuming that there are some). After the London train had disappeared some white exhaust could still be seen, I got the feeling that Oswald "had not chosen wisely."

    18C, 4E & 26mph. So, because of the signal check, Oswald was left unclear about how hard the B1 might be worked but at least I got to see what is a rare loco in these parts (and I remained dry). Around 12.30 we had an horrendous downpour, it was as if someone was throwing buckets of water at the windows; it only lasted 10 or 15 minutes but I was thankful that it hadn't happened 3 hours earlier.



    Edit: An update from Crewe, 47709 was removed from the front and 57002 was added along with 61306.
     
    Last edited: 14. Lipanj 2025. u 15:12
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  11. nige757

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    61306 + 57002 tnt 57311 seen from a dull and midge infested Shap Wells.

     
  12. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

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    Great filming, thanks for posting. Relieved to see it was not a total shoveathon.
     
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  13. nige757

    nige757 Member

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    Thanks Alastair, It was certainly better than what we were expecting.
     
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    Good stuff Nige...worth the aggro from the midges. Wasn't expecting to see anything like this. Well done!
     
  15. Shep Woolley

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    Lakelander 61306 1 NP.jpg

    Under threatening skies, thunder rumbling around, LNER Thompson class B1 No. 61306 'Mayflower' heads 'The Lakelander' through Holme and onwards to Carlisle

    Lakelander 61306 4 NP.jpg

    Running slightly late LNER B1 class No. 61306 'Mayflower' approaches Furness Abbey tunnel with the return leg of 'The Lakelander' to Crewe and onwards to Leicester (Tried to hide the diesels)

    Lakelander 61306 6 NP.jpg

    Close up
     
    Last edited: 14. Lipanj 2025. u 22:38
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  16. nige757

    nige757 Member

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    Thanks David, indeed but will have to use some midge spray in future. Neither were we much to our surprise.
     
  17. JBTEvans

    JBTEvans Part of the furniture

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    Anybody know why the train began to leave Carlisle and then stopped before 61306 had even got off the end of the platform? Wrong route set by signaller?
     
  18. 45698Mars

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    The 30/7 Edinburgh has disappeared off the Saphos website. Cancelled?
     
  19. 2857Harry

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    I can only imagine so if it’s gone. That’s what it normally means.
     
  20. 45698Mars

    45698Mars New Member

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    Not having a great deal of luck with this series of trains are they? The first one diesel hauled due to fire risk and two out of the remaining five now apparently cancelled.
     

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