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Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Leander's Shovel, 20. Listopad 2007..

  1. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    It's not far from that. The "restored" Mosquito in NZ is almost entirely a new build as far as the airframe is concerned.
     
  2. Eightpot

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    Hope you won't mind my pointing out, Steve, but there is/was a standard for riveted boilers.

    The latest version I have a copy of is B.S. 931 of 1951, 'Loco-Type Multitubular Boilers Of Riveted Construction'. This incorporates amendments issued February 1960 (PD3693) and April 1961 (PD4158). It was first published in December 1936.
     
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    Interesting idea, I am sure there would be a prescence from 72010 Hengist project if it was possible to arrange something.
     
  4. S.A.C. Martin

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    Ah! My apologies. I also forgot 82045 and the G5 projects, along with the Z Class Atlantic (that's supposed to be being built for the Olympics?) :redface:

    Any others...?
     
  5. paulhitch

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    Don't forget the "smaller fry" such as "Thomas Wicksteed" or "Jack Lane" I believe there is some 2ft. gauge track at NRM which the could be demonstrated on.
     
  6. Ben Vintage-Trains

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    not a bad idea at all. I don't think it would happen before NRM+ gets under way, but I will run it by the powers that be.

    Question: is the Bloomer a new build? Parts of the frames (mostly the tender) are original. What does that make it?
     
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    A hybrid? (sounds nasty lol)
     
  8. Steve

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    Not at all. I did say that there was no standard for loco boilers, though, and I hope you don't mind me pointing out the final paragraph of section 1 of BS931 (Scope), which states that this standard '...does not apply to boilers for railway locomotives .............' (Which is a bit bizarre when you look at the title of the standard but it is essentially for traction engines and similar!)

    Touche!
     
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    Actually Steve, B.S. 2790 (welded boilers) has the same proviso!

    Touche, touched?
     
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    why talk of tubes? anyone with the with the correct tig certs can re-end flue tubes if they Know how to set them up ect to make sure they are in line. These are hardly the issue here, & im sure the A1 trust has more on its plate to worry about. good luck to them with this recon boiler when it returns, i do hope it works out for them. asap.
    Ar also why would they need to remove the flues anyway?
     
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    Considering what a mozzi airframe is made from, thats not a bad thing!
     
  12. Martin Perry

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    It was OK for use on operations for a few months! As the NZ restoration is using original fittings, it is counted as a rebuild. If they had wanted to go the modern, more durable route, and replace the balsa/ply construction with modern composites, it would have been a new type and had all the associated hassle of certification.
     
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    If its new builds finished and running then replicas of the early engines eg locomotion, rocket, planet to name but a few could be added.....

    Regards

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    The elephant? thats based on a wood carving!
    Not 100% sure on this as I'm going on pictures on their website, but it looks to me like the G5s firebox is steel. Would that then be classed as a new design?
     
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    As long as it didn't include 'rebuilds' then it should not matter!!!
     
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    I'm intending to 'build' a website (with a lot of help from someone who knows how!) of all new builds and 'conversion' in the near future. Hopefully this will be a 'one-stop-shop' with links to all the relevant web-sites etc, with the permission of those responsible. Iain
     
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    An excellent idea !
     
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