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Vacuum hoses

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    Does anyone have a source of standard 2" vacuum hoses, other than Halyard (Cerambond)? Or have they a monopoly?
     
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    Hi,

    Do they have ro be new ones?
     
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    If they are fit for purpose and, being S/H, cheap, no.
     
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    I think you are stuck. Rediweld Cerambond, as it then was, acquired the vacuum hose business some 10 or more years ago from a company in Kent (Heinkie - though the spelling may be wrong). I was working in the industrial hose business at that time and always found Cerambond to be very helpful. One day I received an enquiry for vacuum brake hoses from someone working on a Black Five who had been in contact with this company in Kent and could get no help from them. The factories I dealt with did not build these hoses, Cerambond were interested in the work but at that time were not able to manufacture. I tried the Kent connection - what an absolute nightmare. Looking back I don't think they wanted the business any more. You couldn't get a quote, you couldn't buy from them, they didn't have a stockest/agent. Tried to get them to produce a worthwhile quantity. No joy. Maybe they didn't want the money.

    I don't know what Cerambond's prices are, but at least you can buy the hoses. They won't be cheap but they are not exactly produced by the thousand.

    I don't think Redfearn/Amiflex have ever done them. What about Railway Wheelset and Brake? I've heard of them, not dealt with them.
     
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    I tried Railway Wheelset & Brake. Although they advertise, they can't supply. Unless you want 4-500 of them, which they'll source abroad! There are other 'suppliers' but they all seem to use Cerambond as the manufacturer.
     
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    Any possibility that the Heritage Railways Association could collate requirements and place large orders?
     
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    They are about 60
    quid from Halyard. Good service though
     
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    They are about 60
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    That's why I'm looking for alternative sources. That's very expensive piping when you compare it with (say) suction hose of equivalent diameter.
     
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    Fair price to my mind. Ordinary suction hose is built on mandrels 200'/60m long in bore sizes up to 4"/102mm (Unless you are IVG, then it is 400'). They are essentially machine built with a smooth, cloth wrap finish. Once you start wanting corrugations, wire free cuffs etc. it gets more expensive. Some of the 'ordinary' suction hose I used to sell would cost you £60 per metre because of the compounds it was made of - and you wouldn't believe the cost of hoses for hydrogen cyanide. To put a mandrel up for a build and not use all of it is not cost effective and so you have to cover a short mandrel surcharge.

    So, get together with other users and buy a large batch. Which gets back in a way to what I was trying to achieve years ago.
     
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