92214: NYMR

err why oh correct one?

Please answer the question. What is the element of harresment, discrimination or badness?

Am I condemned, Is the whole of the Bluebell condemned or the whole of preservation movement who do not partake in the puritan movement?

Do you ever say or do anything midly amusing that could be constued as marginally risque?

 

Personally I think it's a bit of a shame it's been named but it's hardly the end of the world! It will still look on sound fantastic on the Moors and certainly won't put me off going to see it. Besides, you can't see the name when you're on the train and with them being fixed as they are on the smoke deflectors they're a quick fix in PhotoShop. Sorted.

 

Thanks for that. You are Ian? Plenty of people on here do and I was an every weekender come rain or shine at HK for about 15 years (between 83 - 98). Now I have moved away, got wife, kids and black labrador and have just started to recover from serious illness I am more of an interested bystander but like to remember the old days.

Thar were th' days. Nights in the sleeping carriage, days in the carriage shed, evenings in the Sloop, frozen nuts in winter and covered in dust and sunburn in the summer - and nobody censoring what we was or wasn't permitted to say!

 

The Sheffield Park Hilton. Spent a few nights in there during 34081's early visits. Mushrooms growing in the corridors. The horizontal activities of the younger volunteers could be interesting at times. Very thin walls those compartments had. Happy days.
:focus: Perhaps Nelson Mandela plates should have been cast for the 9F and much publicity would have followed.

 

Maybe should have been named ofter a spaceship ( Enterprise) or perhaps after Cooks ship Endeavor... I get the smell of mischief with a hint of 'Wind-up' mixed in.

 

Mischief perhaps but not wind-up. Can't get too anal about things. Cameraderie was part of the appeal of going down and staying every weekend. When I was in my teens my parents would threaten to jet-wash me when I got home on Sunday night! the Leroy and nelson mandela thing was just banter between blokes who had a common interest. There wasn't anyone who took offence or was sour-faced enough to whinge. For gods sake get a life those people who don't like it. All of the above was as much of weekend as was the needlegunning, painting and spanner work.

Plenty of what was said and done wasn't repeatable onhere but that wasn't either witty or clever - just crude. Leroy the engine was amusing to all.

If you don't like that sort of humour I suggest a flower arranging course at Lambeth Town Hall will be more to your taste...

 

If anybody wants to call me any sort of name, that's fine. But quite frankly, times have moved on, and things that used to be acceptable in the past just aren't acceptable now. I volunteered in a new department at my local line for the first time last week. I went to meet the gentleman in charge of the roster, and within 5 minutes he was telling me a joke which used the 'n' word and the 'c' word, and wasn't pleasant at all. To be honest, I'm a Christian, and I take that seriously, and I found it incredibly awkward trying to make a good impression and get along with the chap, without having to pretend to get along with offensive racist banter. I know it's only 'banter', but for goodness sake, we might all love playing with old fashioned technology, but we don't need to take outdated attitudes and language with us. I don't give a monkeys what people talk about on their own, but I really object to having it thrust upon me by somebody I've just met. Just because it isn't offensive to you, doesn't mean it's not offensive to somebody else... (steps off soapbox and grabs coat...)

 

Just to be a bit clearer, I'm not massively objecting to anybody on this thread, more just the general attitude that you have to be tolerant to things you find grossly offensive just to fit in on a railway... And that's directed more at the gentleman I met last week than to anybody on here. It just winds me up a bit...

 

The conversation was actually from 1991 - 20 years ago. Calling a 9f Leroy isn't racist. No 'n' words were used. Rasiscm is discrimination against someone becuase of their race. Sexism is for discrimination because of sex etc etc. Not defending that in any way as that isn't acceptable behaviour but how is calling the 9f Leroy racist? Who is being discriminated against. Who is the victim?

Using the 'n' word and similar is not pleasant or grown up and makes you look like an uneducated oik. Calling an engine Leroy doesn't.

What actually is acceptable to say and who actually makes the rules up?

We supposedly live in a society which has free speech as a cornerstone principle. In reality we don't as if we say something mildly out of kilter we have the thought police pointing and howling. Bit like several hundred years ago with the witchfinder general buring old ladies because they failed the test he just made up.

 

pfft - c word? Churchwood? Collett? Cardiff? Castle?

Baaaaad words...

 

To be painfully blunt, I think the chap is referring to the one similar to the old Norse spelling of King Canute, which is admittedly a fairly strange choice when used in conversation with absolute strangers.

Anyway, I agree that 'Churchward', 'Collett', 'Castle', 'County' and 'City' are all filthy, dirty words, and anyone who thinks otherwise must proceed to write 100 lines of 'Bulleid, Maunsell, Missenden too, the Southern is greatest, now go catch the 'U''...

 

Oh I thought Castle, Collett, Churchwood were bad enough but the King Canute word...

N word - This must be Nigel as in Gresely?

 

Steady on, old chap! Nah, on second thoughts, he was Bulleid's patron in the LNER, so he's alright... Right, as much as I'm enjoying the banter, lets get back to 92214's naming.

 

Bit of a confession here. I couldn't think of anything else that started with an N and I was being called by her who must be obeyed.

Don't really like the name but hey ho its not my toy. If it was mine I would have named it Crystal Palace FC and painted it red white and blue. I think that some on here would assume I would call it Adolf!

 

Now that is completely unacceptable - Mods!

 

Seconded - at the very least you could have picked a decent London team...!

(But what would I know - I support League 1 Charlton! )

 

haha - good break this weekend guys!

 

Seagulls to you mate.

 

Don't let me near one of the new build B17's then. I would number it 61648 ( I guess most will instantly know which B17 I'm talking about)

If I was to name another loco after a football club and I'm not doing this to be spiteful but I would name it either Brighton and Hove Albion FC or Crawley Town FC (though there would not be a Blue and White or all red paint scheme for it) mainly because they are my local teams but the name of the eam which shares its name with 61648 is my main team.

But if I did own a loco that never carried a name during steam days then I probably wouldn't name it.

 

So you want to recreate Woolwich Wanderers then.