If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

92214: NYMR

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door 46118, 22 apr 2011.

  1. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

    Lid geworden:
    19 jan 2010
    Berichten:
    736
    Leuk Bevonden:
    200
    "Criminal"? Seriously?
     
  2. Victor

    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

    Lid geworden:
    20 aug 2006
    Berichten:
    14.528
    Leuk Bevonden:
    9.198
    Beroep:
    Retired
    Locatie:
    DEWSBURY West Yorkshire
    :frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty: Strewth, they're arguing about a name on a locomotive. Paint, names, diesels on the back of steam tours, headboards. What next.
    The locomotive is running, DOES IT MATTER? :rolleyes1:
     
  3. Premier.Prairie

    Premier.Prairie New Member

    Lid geworden:
    22 aug 2009
    Berichten:
    193
    Leuk Bevonden:
    120
    "for some reason the South Devon are following their lead."

    That bit was announced on April 1st !!!

    So that should reduce your BP by a small amount.


    John
     
  4. keith6233

    keith6233 Member

    Lid geworden:
    21 apr 2006
    Berichten:
    601
    Leuk Bevonden:
    184
    Beroep:
    Engineer
    Locatie:
    Manchester
    So we have a 50 year old engine and it should be as it was built apply that to every other engine and there would be no BR liveries bring it on. It was only in service for 6 years so the other 44 don't count.
     
  5. David-Haggar

    David-Haggar Member

    Lid geworden:
    26 aug 2009
    Berichten:
    823
    Leuk Bevonden:
    20
    Beroep:
    Water Meter Reader
    Locatie:
    Eastbourne (75G)
    Looking at the photo of 92214 whilst it is disappointing they've put nameplates on the deflectors it's surely not going to be a massive problem Photoshopping them out.
     
  6. 46118

    46118 Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    16 sep 2005
    Berichten:
    4.043
    Leuk Bevonden:
    212
    How many more times does it have to be said that the important issue is someone with the time enthusiasm and money restoring another engine of whatever lineage to working order. Better that than rusting away quietly in some siding or shed.
    If said people wish to paint it in a particular livery or give it a spurious name, then so be it. Owners perogative.


    Be thankful we have so much working steam 52 years on from "the end of steam".
     
  7. 1472

    1472 Well-Known Member

    Lid geworden:
    26 aug 2008
    Berichten:
    1.954
    Leuk Bevonden:
    2.639
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    OK some of this might share the view that this is the Cock (up) of the North (Yorkshire) but hell the nameplates are probably held on by all of two bolts each and easily removed when good taste prevails!
     
  8. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    31 aug 2010
    Berichten:
    5.615
    Leuk Bevonden:
    9.418
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Asset Engineer (Signalling), MNLPS Treasurer
    Locatie:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I sincerely doubt the naming of the 9F will stop either of the two P2 groups from using the LNER number and name if they want.

    It's theirs to do with as they please. Personally speaking, it wouldn't be my preference, but the nameplates do look smart and are striking. R.A. Riddles is a name that could have easily gone on a 9F mind, if you want to tie into history of the class...

    It's somewhat amusing to think Britannia is running sans nameplates at present, and more 9Fs will be running with them!
     
  9. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Lid geworden:
    25 aug 2007
    Berichten:
    35.836
    Leuk Bevonden:
    22.277
    Beroep:
    Training moles
    Locatie:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If another 9F has to be named then R. A. Riddles would have been a nice touch but I suspect the NYMR marketing department feel that it lacks the "magic" of Cock 'O The North. I'd prefer it unnamed but it won't be stopping me from going to the NYMR as I managed to miss 92220 when it was there so have never experienced a 9F getting to grips with the 1 in 49. Definitely one on my "to do" list for 2011.
     
  10. Orion

    Orion Well-Known Member

    Lid geworden:
    17 aug 2009
    Berichten:
    1.355
    Leuk Bevonden:
    5
    Beroep:
    Pensioner!
    Locatie:
    North-west London
    Personally I would have prefered the LMS and BR to follow the LNW & GW lead and give names to all their passenger and mixed traffic types (and the 9F did become just plain 9 so denoting a mixed traffic engine), so I'm not too fussed about this development.

    Cock Of The North? Well I'm not too sure about that, but perhaps I'm being a bit too PC! I think that the NYMR could have chosen a name that didn't commemorate a particularly brutal northern warlord, but there you go. It's their choice to make, not mine.

    Regards
     
  11. Jark91

    Jark91 Member

    Lid geworden:
    26 dec 2009
    Berichten:
    249
    Leuk Bevonden:
    3
    I think somebody needs a lie down. This can't be good for your blood pressure.
     
  12. richards

    richards Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    1 okt 2008
    Berichten:
    4.708
    Leuk Bevonden:
    2.083
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    See http://www.sdronline.org.uk/Naming-the-Locos---Emails.php for some other responses to this April fool.

    Richard
     
  13. northernblue109

    northernblue109 New Member

    Lid geworden:
    11 jul 2010
    Berichten:
    87
    Leuk Bevonden:
    0
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    North East England
    Seems a lot of fuss about nothing. If you don't like the name, ignore it.
     
  14. DJH

    DJH Member

    Lid geworden:
    18 aug 2009
    Berichten:
    666
    Leuk Bevonden:
    10
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Graduate Engineer
    Locatie:
    London
    ...welcome to national preservation!

    On a serious note though the owner is in control and has the final say. If a nameplate is a serious concern book a photocharter with a request to not have the nameplates on for the charter. Everyone wins, money for loco group/ owner and engine in the appearance of those it concerns.

    Regards

    Duncan
     
  15. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    16 jun 2008
    Berichten:
    3.440
    Leuk Bevonden:
    388
    What a fuss over nothing, so another 9f gets to carry a nameplate , now if they had repainted it in highland green (stroudley yellow) then that would be worth creating about , but they havnt, thinking about this, i think that a standard should be named R A Riddles after the designer and what better than an 9f
     
  16. Ploughman

    Ploughman Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    1 apr 2008
    Berichten:
    5.969
    Leuk Bevonden:
    2.761
    Beroep:
    Ex a lot of things.
    Locatie:
    Near where the 3 Ridings meet
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Nothing to do with the NYMR its the owning consortium who have chosen the name.
    As said earlier "Owners perogotive"
     
  17. ADB968008

    ADB968008 Guest

    92207 was named Morning Star back in 1986, so it's hardly news.
     
  18. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    14 apr 2007
    Berichten:
    4.030
    Leuk Bevonden:
    1.089
    Beroep:
    A Thingy...
    Did it last September, she sounded marvellous on 'that' bank. I feel lucky now that I have photos of 92214 sans nameplates.
     
  19. Dan Hill

    Dan Hill Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    1 aug 2008
    Berichten:
    2.752
    Leuk Bevonden:
    836
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Brick Machine Operator
    Locatie:
    Haywards Heath
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'm not fussed, naming 9F's in preservation has become quite common. 92203 wasn't named Black Prince until preservation, ADB968008 mentioned 92207. Wasn't 92214 renamed temporarily a few years ago after a naming competition.

    Also the A1 Trust's plans for a P2 are that it be numbered 2007 so it wouldn't named Cock O' The North (however the Doncaster P2 Group want they're P2 to be a replica of Cock O' The North)

    I do admit that Robin Riddles or R.A Riddles would be a nice name for a 9F. He was Steam's last locomotive designer and the 9F's were Britains last class of locomotive to be built (excluding Industrials).
     
  20. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

    Lid geworden:
    24 okt 2006
    Berichten:
    1.287
    Leuk Bevonden:
    145
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Operations Manager
    Locatie:
    County Durham
    Looked ok in the "flesh" today and did a 9 minute stroll up the 1 in 49 to Goathland......

    It even pinched part of the class 24s diagram!
     

Deel Deze Pagina