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China Clay Wagons

Discussie in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' gestart door evan_m.gray, 4 jul 2020.

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    Hi

    I am currently working on a project in cornwall and I am looking at all 23 clay wagons that have been preserved in preservation and where they are located.

    I currently know that there are 9 in cornwall: B743000, B743031, B743171, B743226, B743353, B743415, B743443, B743495, B743635. But upon inspection of the rcts wagon database a lot of the wagons and their locations are incorrect.

    Can anyone shed light on the current location of the other 14 clay wagons are?
     
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    I have just had a look and it matches with some information that I already have.

    one that is puzzling me is B743730 as I have spoke recently to the chairman of the east Somerset railway and he says that it left the railway some time ago and does not know where it went, does anyone know where it could be?
     
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    We had some on a photo charter on the Dean Forest Railway in the late 90s
     
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    I'm pretty sure it went to the South Devon, not 100% though.
     
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    I have had a look at south Devon but they only have the one B743010 that I have seen pictures of. This one seems to have vanished into thin air.
     
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    Between the 28th September 2019 (When the wagon was last photographed) and today there is not trace of it.
     
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    Fair enough, definitely went to a railway in the South West.
     
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    RCTS? Did you meant the RHRP Database?
    http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/wsearch.asp
    Whoever it is, I hope you will be sending updates to them as and when you locate the missing wagons. . . :)
     
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    South Devon Railway took delivery of B743730 today (26 October 2020), and plan to use it alongside B743010 once restored.
     
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    South Devon Railway: 743010, 743730 (2)
    Bodmin: 743031, 743171, 743226, 743353, 743415, 743443, 743495, 743635 (8)
    SVR: GWR94059 (1)
    Didcot: 92943 (1)
    743000 NK
     
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    According to the RHRP/Vintage carriages pages, 743000 is at Carthew/Wheal Martin Heritage....

    http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=6650

    Also, it lists 14 wagons, not including the SVR and Didcot GWR examples:

    BR B 743031 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743443 China Clay Wagon built 1959[​IMG]
    BR B 743353 China Clay Wagon built 1957[​IMG]
    BR B 743495 China Clay Wagon built 1959[​IMG]
    BR B 743171 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743000 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743835 China Clay Wagon built 1960[​IMG]
    BR B 743169 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743730 China Clay Wagon built 1960[​IMG]
    BR B 743141 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743029 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743010 China Clay Wagon built 1955[​IMG]
    BR B 743755 China Clay Wagon built 1960[​IMG]
    BR B 743773 China Clay Wagon built 1960[​IMG]
     
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    There is another GWR Clay wagon on The DFR, I think it was partially set on fire recently.
     
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    ...and another gwr one at The Glos/War.
     
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    Preserved railway stocklist has 23 records, no idea on accuracy

    Buckinghamshire Buckinghamshire Railway Centre /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display, In Museum B 743029 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1957 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743353 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743495 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743443 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743031 [​IMG]
    Cornwall Bodmin & Wenford Railway /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational B 743171 [​IMG]
    Cornwall St Austell China Clay Museum Ltd /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743000 [​IMG]
    Devon South Devon Railway /1954 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743010 [​IMG]
    Devon Tarka Valley Railway Group /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743169 [​IMG]
    Essex Mangapps Railway Museum /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743664 [​IMG]
    Gloucestershire Gloucester & Warwickshire Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Operational, in Demo Train B 743835 [​IMG]
    Somerset East Somerset Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Under Repair/Restoration, Off Site B 743730 [​IMG]
    Unknown Unknown /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743773 [​IMG]
    Unknown Unknown /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Unknown B 743755 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743249 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743303 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743404 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Big Pit Trust Ltd /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743836 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1956 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743226 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1959 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743635 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1960 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743823 [​IMG]
    Wales Torfaen Pontypool & Blaenavon Railway /1958 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood std B 743415 [​IMG]
    Yorkshire North NRM York /1955 9c - BR Wagons 13t 4w 5pl End Tippler China Clay Open Plank Ends Centre Dropside Clayhood Static Display B 743141
     
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    Really interesting - what happened to the one at St Blazey depot which belonged to EWS/DB Cargo - is it still there?
     
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    Hi Paul,

    The St Blazey Clay Wagon was B743835, it left St Blazey (When we don't exactly know) and is currently residing at the Gloucs Warks Railway.

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    hello!

    an update been long coming.

    the project that myself and my father had founded created and was running that being the clay wagon project has now stopped meaning our dream of restoring the largest collection of BR china clay wagons has now ended and any work to those wagons is now being done by bodmin and wenford railway. politics of the railway caused it to stop on our end.
     
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