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Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door Leander's Shovel, 20 okt 2007.

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  1. The Green Howards

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    I view the BR 2-6-4T as a 'big chuffer' !! :)

    (Still yet to see one. Maybe one day.)
     
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  2. The Green Howards

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    Thread drift (as ever) but you've not seen a Standard Tank in the flesh?! Ruddy hell where have you been? Mods more than than happy to have this post moved to somewhere more relevant, this thread is starting to detach from the A1 pacific it should be about.
     
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  4. The Green Howards

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    Not far afield enough... :(
     
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    I don't think there is a need to panic over this. The first line to be dealt with is the ECML from Kings Cross to Doncaster but it will be decades before the whole system is signal free.
     
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    I think the first line the Cambrian already has the first version of it and since then Steam has not been on that line. I think that rather than steam locos being fitted with it, Steam will just avoid those lines that have it. (unless Network rail pays for the fitment). Just had a quick read up about the system on the Wikipedia page on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Train_Control_System

    Seems hellishly expensive and complicated, and seems to offer little benefit unless trains are operating from one country to another (ie in Europe) so that both countries use the same system. As it is an EU directive can't it just be 'binned' now that we have binned EU membership.
     
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    We won't bin it having spent too much money in it's development
     
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    Unlike the APT!;)
     
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    It will not need all lines to be converted. Once a few strategic lines are converted it will be difficult to plot a route through.
     
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    And TSR2*
    *Other cancelled projects are available.
     
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  12. The Green Howards

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    That one was sheer bloody stupidity.
     
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    HS2 to follow next in cancelled projects.

    Pretty serious thread drift now....
     
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    Have a look at http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/4907/pr08-partG_amends.pdf and Cl.2.2. The likes of NYMR, WCRC and others will have the costs underwritten by Network Rail. That's a good number of locos, for a start.
     
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    Surely there's scope for some sort of dodge there, NYMR suddenly buying mainline steam locos at a knockdown price, get the equipment fitted, operate them for a season, then sell them back again for a small profit... :)
     
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    My auto complete still sometimes thinks it should be Churchwarden
     
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    Has your deviousness blossomed since you went to Sheffield?;)
     
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    Just a problem seen through the eyes of an impoverished student. :D
     
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    One can hope
     
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    Doesn't matter whether in the EU or not, still a need to inter operate.
     
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