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wheels of fire

Discussie in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' gestart door 46236, 28 jul 2009.

  1. 46236

    46236 Well-Known Member

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    back in 1993 I filmed this, always wondered what was going on, any suggestions
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjibKqrFB20
     
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  2. arthur maunsell

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    jammed brakes on fourth axle is my guess
     
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    but sparks were coming from the front as well
     
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  4. DH34105

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    Difficult to be certain but having looked at the video a couple of times and the fact that the locos were slowing down, I would suggest that there was a fairly heavy brake application on the 47, hence sparks from more than the 4th wheel - not unusual to see sparks from brakes of 47's on heavy brake application, not sure that 4th axle is just a seized brake though it might be

    Hope that helps a bit

    DH
     
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  5. 46236

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    was running under power and green lights....and went past sbox with no probs, just a cloud of smoke
     
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    Certainly appears that the brakes were on - dragging?? - on more than one set of wheels and much more severely on 4th axle - other than that sorry cant help!

    DH
     
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    dont suppose it was an early version of rail scrubbing? if not how was it allowed to run in this condition
     
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    In the US they sometimes fit abrasive brake shoes (and adjust them to be tight) to takeout minor wheel flats while the loco continues to run - but the sparks on the 4th axle look a bit extreme for that. The brake shoes would have to be very hot to throw that amount of sparks. I think it has to be a brake problem though as the shape of the sparks thrown suggest the wheel is still going around.
     
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