60009

During yesterday's trip with 60009 I was surprised how loud the exhaust from the air pump was. I don't recall previously hearing it so loud on this or any other loco.

Anyone shed any light on this?

 

I cant shed any light but I thought the same when I saw it at York last weekend

 

Number nine at Bo'ness this morning after a late night move from Joppa.

 

Copied from the 60009 Fb page.

"Following repeated negative comments from one person, which went on late into last night and again this morning regarding the long delay at Aberdeen which was nothing to do with Number 9, The Support Crew or Ferryhill Railway Heritage Trust and the fact that we didn't put out updates on this delay, we don't have a hot line to the signalling centre and are as much in the dark as anyone else, from now on, when on a Rail Tour, no updates will be given, only the occasional photograph.
As was stated yesterday, we are not a news service and only put items on the page as and when we can, as we have more important things to do when on duty.
Goodness knows how everyone managed without social media.
We wish to thank the 99.9% of people for all of their positive comments and support."

 

That's the only way to deal with these trolls unfortunately. Sadly, those of us who welcome genuine information and updates are the ones who suffer. We have a similar problem with a few folks connected to our Bus Museum Facebook page, they are an absolute pain in the backside. I think this social media nonsense has got far beyond a joke, some people have completely lost their grip on reality.

Richard.

 

All they had to do was quickly ban the idiot, and move on, sets the tone for any other who fancies being a warrior.

 

Really sorry to read of the problem because Social media and indeed Realtime trains are a massive bonus. We can at this moment watch B>I>L doing her stuff in Yorkshire via the cams and gone are the days (1960's) when we sat by railside awaiting a 'special' for 2 hours then find out two days later it never ran !! I say keep the good work up to all volunteers and workers....UOSA is indeed a beautiful beautiful locomotive.

 

Can empathise with that! Memories of a freezing day at Hellifield in the early 60's waiting for a 'Streak' that was supposed to be coming through. Only 'copped' one all day and that was a 'Peak.'

 

Been there too - a December day, freezing cold with horizontal rain waiting for, IIRC, the very locomotive this thread is about running over two hours late! A cup of tea from the crossing keeper (seriously!) was gratefully received!!

 

Update from The Dundee Courier. Visitor centre approved but no locomotives in the plan.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/new...-without-the-locomotives-previously-proposed/

 

I am pleased the visitor centre has got the go-ahead, it clearly means a lot to Mr. Cameron and will no doubt fulfill a valuable educational role.

No doubt there will now be renewed speculation regarding the future prospects of his engines...I still take the view that as long as they end up somewhere where they will be cared for, nobody can ask for any more than that.

 

Does it really matter to the pettifoggers at the council if a shed contains tractors or a couple of locos? The impact is the building, not its contents.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

They turned down the original application because it would be a loss of prime agricultural land, but they allow the new application with a visitor centre, a cafe and a 21 space car park as long as nobody mentions 'steam engine'. Will the new shed and car park be hung from sky-hooks to avoid using agricultural land?

Planners.

 

Planning on agricultural land is a bit odd, a cafe and visitors centre promoting British farming and possibly selling produce is generally seen as a diversification whereas a steam museum is in no way linked to agriculture. With the exception of National Parks and areas of outstanding natural beauty I think a farmer is still allowed to put up an agricultural building of any size he likes without planning consent. It’s similar with dwellings, if a need can be shown for a dwelling on the farm, planning consent is normally available but residency is restricted to anyone who gets their main income from agriculture or the house can only be sold as part of a viable agricultural unit. Such restrictions can devalue the property by about 50% and I was always getting enquiries for mortgages from people who saw a cheap properties for sale and thought they could comply by keeping a couple of sheep in the back garden.

 

The answer lies in tractors.

Tractors are generally recognised as agricultural equipment used to haul other stuff.

However the word isn't solely restricted to those things with the big back wheels that farmers drive around fields and roads. The front part of an articulated HGV is a tractor unit. In the general sense a tractor is something that pulls something else.

Steam locos pull other things, so they are rail mounted tractors. In their working life they may have hauled such traffic as cattle cars and milk trains. You don't get more agricultural than cattle produce.

John Cameron has two large tractors looking for a shed to be housed in.

Job done.

 

Unless Mr Cameron is swapping 60009 for a couple of 37's.... ( ducks under parapet..)

 

Did UoSA ever haul cattle cars or milk trains in [pre preservation] service?
This argument would probably work well for an industrial tank engine, not so much a top-link express locomotive.

Was the last overhaul paid for solely by Mr Cameron or were there public donations requested?

 

I think making the argument to say a locomotive is a "tractor" in ana agricultural sense is stretching it, to say the least.

But, FWIW, A4s weren't unknown on goods trains, presumably from time to time including cattle; I suspect milk (as NPCS) might have been even more common.


Welwyn Garden City 3 railway geograph-2283176-by-Ben-Brooksbank
Ben Brooksbank / On the ECML between the Welwyn Tunnels, with an Up freight, via Wikimedia Commons

Tom

 

I don’t believe Mr. Cameron has ever appealed for financial donations from the public.

 

The Scotch Goods was a booked A4 turn and was a Top Link working.

 

A4 60004 WILLIAM WHITELAW near Aberdeen with the 18:43 milk train to Perth 17 April 1964