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Pathfinder: The Marches Castle - Nov 29th

Dieses Thema im Forum 'What's Going On' wurde von Big Al gestartet, 14 November 2014.

  1. 46118

    46118 Part of the furniture

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    Strange that as of a couple of minutes ago, 1917 hours, 28th, the Pathfinder website has had no updates since 25th . Not that difficult to update a website is it?
     
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  2. Midland Red

    Midland Red New Member

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    I feel sorry for the (volunteer) support crew who will have put in many unsociable hours of work - they will be gutted.
     
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    free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

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    Bad luck No.7. <BJ>
     
  4. The Crimson Pirate

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    I believe one of the managers from LSL will be on the train tomorrow to answer any questions.
     
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    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    The Torbays have a couple of locos at Bristol, so if one fails, then the other can be made ready in time. As you say, 4464 is at Southall. That's a hundred miles away. As it was only announced at lunchtime today, that's nowhere near enough time to get a loco ready and moved west. Support crew, loco crew, pathing, coal, water, all need to be sorted, not an easy task at the best of times, and especially not at short notice. I doubt Pathfinder have taken any pleasure in using a diesel for this trip; their stewards will be the ones who have to take all the flak from passengers.

    Failures happen with 70+ year old locos. They could happen at any time. At least this failure was before departure, and not like the trip 6 years ago which stuffed the Marches for two hours.
     
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  6. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Question

    since it ran light engine earlier in the week and passed an FTR , if it were kept in light steam (can't see a heating and cooling cycle being allowed ) Does it need another FTR ?
     
  7. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Considering it failed probably a good thing that it did!
     
  8. Neil_Scott

    Neil_Scott Part of the furniture

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    If it's come off NR owned infrastructure then probably yes, here's a quote from the railway group standard for the registration of steam locomotives on the network:

    5.2.3 A Fitness to Run examination, as defined in the Daily/Pre-run Examination
    in MT/276, shall be undertaken by certificated examiners each time before a
    Steam Locomotive is operated over Railtrack controlled infrastructure and
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    operator, that the locomotive is safe to operate

    http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_...ck/Railway Group Standards/GMRT2003 Iss 1.pdf

    Despite the date and the references to Railtrack this document is still listed as 'live' by the RSSB.
     
  9. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

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    Agreed,very disappointing. An email to all passengers for whom they have email addresses explaining situation costs nothing and would at least demonstrate good customer care. And,as you say,not to put a detailed message on website seems very poor.
     
  10. ADB968008

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    Water stops with a 67, chances of early running or will it the pain be made worse by having to wait in all those watering stops ?

    Off peak day return from Bristol to Shrewsbury is £46.80, one would have thought the refund would be at least to the level of a regular on the day return ticket ?

    All goes back to the need for "an heir and a spare" or "you scratch my back I scratch yours" when it comes to locomotives supporting each other for running rail tours... At the end of the day does the loco group bare financial responsibility for the consequences of a no show or is it the promoter left holding the can ?

    To add insult to injury, it seems the CathEx has extra steam haulage from Bristol to Slough..
     
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  11. Tony172

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    It can't be postponed as nunnery castle needs major work and won't work again this year, like somebody else has said lunchtime today is too short notice to get another loco ready for the morning, as most locos are 100 miles away


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  12. Sidmouth

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    So LSL are in the unfortunate position of 4464 about to have an overhaul , 34046 under overhaul, 70000 sidelined with axle problems , and tony suggests 5029 now needs major work
     
  13. ADB968008

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    With exception of 4464, all the other 3 have had very long periods of repairs and inactivity in the last few years... didn't 5029 sit out a considerable length due to needing tyres only a year or so back ?, 70000's last 2 years have been ... muted and 34046 took years to get to the mainline (Slipped wheel on axle ?)

    Whats in common... they are all wheel related issues ? - how bizarre.
     
  14. Sidmouth

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    I forgot 6024 under overhaul as well , 60532 in the wings , and 6100 having a protracted overhaul
     
  15. Shoddy127

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    An FTR only lasts for a certain amount of hours so if there is a 2/3 day gap between tours then another one is required. Mind you and as stated above in post #48, a train crew/FTR examiner will always do another FTR the same evening after a day move for example to confirm the loco is still fit to run the next day incase any gremlins have popped up.

    A real shame for the passengers tomorrow but at least it shows the examiner is carrying out his duties to the required standards.
     
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    alastair Well-Known Member

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    Diesel pilot being attached at Bristol Parkway and apparently running triple-headed from there to Slough. As locos and stock heading to Southall this is presumably to save a seperate LE path.
     
  17. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

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    Heard from a friend in Bristol that it's a leaking stays issue. He got it second hand.Anyone confirm?
     
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    green five Resident of Nat Pres

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    I was told yesterday morning that she has major firebox problems and requires a lot of work.
     
  19. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    If true, then that's it till next spring, at best.
     
  20. ADB968008

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    If that were the case, then surely that would have been noted at MidHants, or is it just a known long term issue and the latest problem just brings it over the tipping point?

    It certainly was going a treat at Mid-Hants.
     

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