If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

NG lines taken over by the Big Four

本贴由 Felix Holt 于 2015-02-15 发布. 版块名称: Narrow Gauge Railways

  1. Felix Holt

    Felix Holt Guest

    On another forum someone posted they were sure that the Big Four all took over some NG lines at the Grouping (or presumably soon before/after). Apart from the GWR lines in Wales, and the Southern takeover of the L&B, it's tricky trying to find out what other lines (if any) were taken over. Excluding the Irish 3 foot lines, can anyone suggest other GB-based NG lines taken over by the Big Four?
     
    Felix Holt, 2015-02-15
    #1
  2. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-04-15
    帖子:
    16,551
    支持:
    7,897
    所在地:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Can't think of any, I guess that the works lines at Horwich (L&YR) and Crewe (LNWR) are not what you are thinking of.
     
    Martin Perry, 2015-02-15
    #2
  3. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2011-05-18
    帖子:
    6,081
    支持:
    2,217
    Leek and Manifold operated by the LMS
     
    Reading General, 2015-02-15
    #3
  4. Steve B

    Steve B Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2008-06-20
    帖子:
    2,167
    支持:
    1,579
    所在地:
    Shropshire
    Leek and Manifold - LMS

    Steve B
     
    Steve B, 2015-02-15
    #4
  5. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2011-05-18
    帖子:
    6,081
    支持:
    2,217
    beat you!
     
    Reading General, 2015-02-15
    #5
  6. Steve B

    Steve B Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2008-06-20
    帖子:
    2,167
    支持:
    1,579
    所在地:
    Shropshire
    Steve B, 2015-02-15
    #6
    已获得Martin Perry和paulhitch的支持.
  7. houghtonga

    houghtonga Member

    注册日期:
    2007-11-22
    帖子:
    385
    支持:
    109
    性别:
    男
    职业:
    Chartered Engineer
    所在地:
    Derby
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The LNER had a sleeper works at Lowestoft with a 3' narrow gauge system that used locomotives. The NER did propose a narrow gauge line in the Beverley area but it wasn't built.

    Sadly the Southwold Railway was somehow excluded from the grouping.

    I appreciate they were excluded from the OP - but for info, the LMS's 3ft gauge narrow gauge lines in Ireland came through their ownership of the Northern Counties Committee (originally part of the Midland Railway). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Counties_Committee

    I am not an expert on the Irish 3ft but the I lines I gather the NCC had were: -
    • - Ballycastle Railway
    • - Ballymena and Larne Railway
    • - Ballymena, Cushendall and Red Bay Railway
    • - Portstewart Tramway
    • - County Donegal Railway Joint Committee: Strabane - Derry - section. This section of the line was owned by the NCC but operated by the CDRJC which the NCC jointly owned with the GNR(I).
     
    Last edited: 2015-02-16
    houghtonga, 2015-02-16
    #7
  8. flaman

    flaman Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2012-10-28
    帖子:
    2,292
    支持:
    2,048
    性别:
    男
    职业:
    Semi-retired farmer, railway & museum owner
    所在地:
    Burnham-on-Crouch, Essex
    Unfortunately for the Southwold Rly, it was still solvent at the grouping. The nearby, standard gauge, Mid-Suffolk Light was bankrupt and being operated by the Receiver by 1923 and as a result of pressure from the local MP and the relevant Parliamentary committee, the LNER was obliged, reluctantly, to take it on in 1924.

    As a result, the M-SLR survived until 1952, whereas the Southwold went under in 1929, by which time the committee had been wound-up and the LNER was immune from political pressure.

    An intriguing "what if" though.
     
    flaman, 2015-02-16
    #8
  9. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

    注册日期:
    2010-01-19
    帖子:
    736
    支持:
    200
    The LMS had a couple of 2' guage Bagnalls for use on large civil engineering jobs.
     
    Bramblewick, 2015-02-16
    #9
  10. fatbob

    fatbob Member

    注册日期:
    2008-06-16
    帖子:
    209
    支持:
    41
    Does the Burton and Ashby Light Railway count?

    It was 3` 6" and a tramway but it does have the word "Railway" in its title!

    Henry
     
    fatbob, 2015-02-18
    #10
    已获得houghtonga的支持.
  11. ilvaporista

    ilvaporista Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2006-01-16
    帖子:
    4,356
    支持:
    5,455
    性别:
    男
    职业:
    C.Eng
    所在地:
    On the 45th!
    What about the garden operation on the Eastern Region that supplied the hanging baskets? There was an internal rail (just about) system there until closure a few years ago
     
    ilvaporista, 2015-02-18
    #11
  12. ragl

    ragl Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2010-02-03
    帖子:
    1,797
    支持:
    1,934
    性别:
    男
    职业:
    Consultant Engineer
    所在地:
    Shropshire
    Plus, of course, The Nantlle Tramway. This horse powered line was inherited by the LMS from the LNWR and survived until 1963.

    Cheers

    Alan
     
    ragl, 2015-02-18
    #12
    已获得houghtonga和Steve B的支持.
  13. tor-cyan

    tor-cyan Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2008-03-28
    帖子:
    1,269
    支持:
    1,658
    性别:
    男
    the 3ft 6" Caldon low lime quarry system was operated first by the North Staffs railway then the LMS, closing in 1936
    Cheers
    Colin
     
    tor-cyan, 2015-02-18
    #13
  14. NGChrisW

    NGChrisW New Member

    注册日期:
    2011-10-18
    帖子:
    177
    支持:
    117
    所在地:
    Surrey
    Although the nursery (Poppleton?) existed pre nationalisation I think the rail system there wasn't installed until some time later in BR days.
     
    NGChrisW, 2015-02-18
    #14

分享此页面