Bulleid Pacifics - Past or Present

I'm probably going to get pilloried for treading over old ground, but still feel I have to step in here. Mr Hollowood is very much a Shinkansen sort of chap, and his comment was part of an attempt to reflect the broader church of railway history and the modernising ethos- such opinons probably did exist (eg. FGW's Alison Forster on HSTs v steam back in 2005-2006: its a similar sort of argument on new v old); also remember the NRM has to cover the post-steam railway, too. Furthermore, it has to be said that 'premier dining' on charter trains is very much a niche market, and not necessarily indicative of a burgeoning day-to-day demand on the modern railway network where bums-on-seats without lengthening trains takes precedence.

I'm quite a regular traveller on the national network, and I have to say that I subscribe to the 'waste of space' view of first class when boarding a crowded First TransPennine Leeds-Manchester service, as they tend to take two thirds of a carriage in a three-car set. Furthermore, the conversion of a proportion of FGW dining cars is a response to such difficulties.

As the NRM response to your enquiry suggests, it was a shame that the BBC used that particular part of the telephone interview as the take-away quote for the article. I'm not excusing the fact that he should have been a bit more savvy when dealing with the national media in an official capacity, but as already established in another thread, it was quoted out of a much broader context that examined the social history of the dining car.

Anyway, 34051 looks stunning.

 

And here she is:

 

Good evening

With the Mid Hants gala approaching I thought it would be a perfect chance to do a quick update on CanPac and do a quick plug ;-)

http://locoyard.com/2015/02/11/simons-journey-into-the-world-of-volunteering-entry-11/

During the gala there will be a CanPac stand in the Ropley education suite if you fancy learning more about our project, fancy finding out joining our wonderful team, help get restoration underway by donating or buying one of our lovely CanPac mugs.

 

I was reading the second of Peter Smith's books on working the S&D, and I was quite interested that he said Swanage was a bit of a dog back in his day. I think the phrase was something like 'as weak as a kitten' or something similar... Did the loco have a similar reputation in its last ticket? Is it likely that a loco will change its characteristics significantly with an overhaul or is it more the case that a weak engine remains a weak engine? (Not knocking the MHR at all, just reading the book made me wonder)


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Demanding though the MHR is, at heritage railway level it's nowhere near as demanding as the S&D was so perhaps 34105's weakness didn't reveal itself so markedly.

 

Cant speak from personal experience, but most I speak to think Swanage went better than any of the other Spamcans we've had on the line, but not as well as Bodmin.

 

Swanage and Coombe Martin both had bad reputations at Bournemouth for one reason and another but Loco's are rather like cars sometimes. Maybe they were both 'Friday Afternoon' machines !

 

Really interesting... I know Pete Smith said that maintenance at Bournemouth was being let to slide a bit then which probably explains a lot...


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Evening chaps,

I need some help basically a side project of mine has got me wondering with the number of Merchant Navys that survived is it possible that at least one major component has survived from each locomotive (nameplates dont count). Using my own knowledge A J Frys book I have come up with this list but still has loads of gaps. The way I am doing it is using components that were fitted when the locomotive first entered traffic... so tender and boiler hopping doesnt count.

35001 21C1 Channel Packet
35002 21C2 Union Castle
35003 21C3 Royal Mail Tender survives behind 35029
35004 21C4 Cunard White Star
35005 21C5 Canadian Pacific Survived
35006 21C6 Peninsular & Oriental S. N. Co. Survived
35007 21C7 Aberdeen Commonwealth Boiler survives on 35006
35008 21C8 Orient Line Boiler survives on 35011
35009 21C9 Shaw Savill Survived
35010 21C10 Blue Star Survived
35011 21C11 General Steam Navigation Survived
35012 21C12 United States Lines Tender behind 34101
35013 21C13 Blue Funnel Boiler survives on 35029
35014 21C14 Nederland Line
35015 21C15 Rotterdam Lloyd Boiler survives on 35025
35016 21C16 Elders Fyffes Centre Drive wheels on 35006
35017 21C17 Belgian Marine
35018 21C18 British India Line Survived
35019 21C19 French Line CGT Rear drive wheels on 35005
35020 21C20 Bibby Line Tender survives behind 34067
35021 - New Zealand Line Tender survives behind 35028
35022 - Holland America Line Survived
35023 - Holland-Afrika Line
35024 - East Asiatic Company
35025 - Brocklebank Line Survived
35026 - Lamport & Holt Line Tender behind 35018
35027 - Port Line Survived
35028 - Clan Line Survived
35029 - Ellerman Lines Survived
35030 - Elder Dempster Lines Tender survives behind 34039

Thanks for any help

 

Does it really make any sense to talk about boilers or tenders "belonging" to any particular locomotive though? Boilers were routinely swapped, and on some lines at least so were tenders.

 

It's nothing serious just an interesting excerise due to how a high percentage of the class survived

 

Sorry I had to make one minor amendment

 

I was waiting for someone to do that

 

This popped on Twitter today

@SVREngsteam: 34027 Taw Valley is having the new elements fitted today #SVR #TVReturn

 

The end is nigh for this one. It has been such a long time but she is finally in the final furlong and, touch wood, galloping home.

 

Hasn't 35006 looked like that for several years now...... however I am sure we will see 34027 steaming on the valley later this year!

 

I think Taw Valley will be out and about sooner rather than later. Being dual braked it is required for the SVR part of the "Golden Jubilee Pullman" on the 16th May, so I think the hope is to have the loco run-in by then. (Deltic-hauled from London to Kidderminster, by the way)

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The above date is the target date to have the loco run in and back in service. I imagine, without tempting fate, the first may bank hol may see her back in service or certainly running in.

 

The latest issue of the 35006 society magazine landed on my door this morning, they are just getting ready for the cold and then pressurised boiler tests. Lets hope it wont be long before we see this beast back in action

 

Great news: 35006 P&O yesterday passed its boiler inspection Part A cold exam yesterday, Part B which is a full steam test will take place in a few weeks time.