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61306 Cathedrals Express to York 12th March 2015

Dieses Thema im Forum 'What's Going On' wurde von 5944 gestartet, 22 Februar 2015.

  1. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

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    The now customary stagger along the ECML - 6 hours each way.

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U63545/2015/03/12/advanced

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  2. Big Al

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    Looking forward to this one. Work prevents me from travelling but I'll nip out to see her depart Arlesey, where I used to watch the trains go by as a kid. Will be wallowing in nostalgia.
     
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    Ahem, whoops! With those timings it could do it alone. The fastest section is York to Retford on the return, the rest of it could be done with a 50mph 8F.
     
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    I will find a tour and place where I can watch her romping past soon. One thing is certain, I'm not paying for a 12 hour round trip to York.
     
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    And just to put these timings into context, 5 hours 49 minutes on the return, with six intermediate passenger stops, and the traverse of the Hertford Loop to boot, does surely bear some comparison with the (indicative) timings posted for the much-heralded return of Tornado to the ECML on 2nd June - 5 hours with one intermediate passenger stop, via Potters Bar. Always assuming no diesel assistance, of course (for the B1, that is!)

    I suppose I should also take into account the duration of stops at the intermediate waterholes in making this sort of comparison, but all in all, taking account of all the operational constraints posed by the ECML nowadays, these timings really aren't too bad, are they??
     
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    Are we expecting assistance on this trip ?
     
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    Having seen the NR STN for The Easterling stating quite clearly that a diesel would be in the consist, only to find out that it stayed behind at KGX, I'm not sure what to make of the STN for Thursday's trip that also says a diesel will be stuck on the back.
     
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    Going without the diesel tomorrow!!


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  12. LMarsh1987

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    Good news. Must be a load 9 or 10
     
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    8 + POB


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    Through crews hill at 07:42 no diesel
     
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    Excellent. In future I will ignore what the STN says as this is the second trip with 61306 this week where it said a diesel on the back but reality proved different.
     
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    I've heard it said more than once by informed sources that West Coast doesn't add a diesel to a train without good reason. That's usually because there is an operational reason such as how the train has to be turned at the destination or if there are concerns about the combination of train length and keeping to the path given by NR. Sometimes it has also been the fact that the tour operator has allowed the train to become too long for the motive power or a last minute switch to an underpowered locomotive that has tipped the balance.

    I think we have seen with the RTC trip at the weekend and the SD trip today that provided the loco is the one that is planned, both tour operators are thinking carefully about what will work without assistance and liaising with WC to that end. That's really good to see.

    Perhaps these two instances may now bring to an end the view that the charter market is trying to maximise income irrespective of how their trains are powered or without any thought for the enthusiast 'pure steam' interests.
     
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    I hope that "pure steam" enthusiasts are considered but if the charter market is not trying to maximise income, the market will soon be at an end.
     
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    Looked good passing Wymondley, between Stevenage and Hitchin this morning. I was on the train to work wondering why there were lots of people about with cameras.... Doh!
     
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    The scene has changed out of all recognition since I watched trains here as a young kid with my Dad. We'd be taking the fish offal to "Joker" who had a pig farm by the railway. "Crossing gates are closed Dad, can we wait for the train?" "Alright but just the one." "They're' still closed Dad, can we watch the next one?" "Oh alright, but no more?" and so the pleading would go on. A scene not seen since 5th January 1959, a B1 calling at Arlesey on a passenger train. 61306 really stirred the memories this morning.
    [​IMG]61306 'Mayflower' Arlesey 12-03-2015 by KING COBRA 92, on Flickr
     
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    Great shot, and stirring indeed, even for those who weren't there, :)
     

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