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Borders Railway Steam Services - Autumn 2015

Discussie in 'What's Going On' gestart door rule55, 22 apr 2015.

  1. rule55

    rule55 Member

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    Worth remembering for those planning a long trip that due to the rather basic nature of the infrastructure at Tweedbank there will be a diesel locomotive involved in borders steam even if it is dead weight on the drawhook one way (and with Falahill to conquer there's every likelihood it may be required to shove a bit!!)
     
  2. ianh

    ianh Member

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    A1 and Deltic combo....... you know it makes sense,:)
     
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  3. andalfi1

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    A3 & Deltic combo, even better ;)
     
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  4. andalfi1

    andalfi1 Well-Known Member

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    Just had a look at the gradient profile...... That's a formidable bank, both ways ! Should make em bark a bit...
     
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  5. tromba

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    6201 is not currently registered to run with DBS. I am told the certification process could potentially be close to £10k per loco. This is quite the investment for any loco group, so don't hold your breath on seeing it run on a DBS charter anytime soon.
     
  6. gricerdon

    gricerdon Guest

    Where did you find that?

    Don
     
  7. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Ian Allan's gradient profile book has the Waverley Route in it.
     
  8. andalfi1

    andalfi1 Well-Known Member

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    Google-waverley route gradient profile.
     
  9. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Dunno where andalfi1 found it, but it's in my copy of BR Main Line Gradient Profiles ISBN 0-7110-0875-2. Southbound (up?) it's about 5 miles averaging about 1 in 150 followed by about 8 miles of mostly 1 in 70. Northbound about 16 miles averaging about 1 in 150.
     
  10. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Aye. Southbound, Falahill is every bit of a challenge as the climb to Whitrope
     
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  11. andalfi1

    andalfi1 Well-Known Member

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    Now, just need to find out the axle loading the new railway is built to and, if available to Black 5 and above, i'm really looking forward to it...
     
  12. Moylesy98

    Moylesy98 Guest

    For me traveling to Edinburgh from Southport by road is 214 Miles and a 4hr drive where as Tweedbank is 175 Miles by road and only 3hrs 20mins drive. But what I might do if neither of those options is viable is leave the car in Carlisle and then travel by rail to Edinburgh and start from there, if WCRC do get to keep their licence I hope that the engine they choose is 61264 as the B1's were a common sight on the route in steam days, if not her either 61306, 61994 or one of the Riley Duo sisters.
     
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  13. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

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    With concrete sleepers and the rail specification, and with all structure rebuilt to current NR standards, I would think that the route will take anything short of a steelworks cradle.
     
  14. andalfi1

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    That'll do me, now where's the Ticket office....
     
  15. andalfi1

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    Now your talking, 1264 & 1306 top and tail, NICE !!!
     
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    Fairly flat by Scottish standards then?
     
  17. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    We don't know what length of train is planned but the idea of top and tail steam, if it's affordable, would be an even greater appeal. The journey may only be 16 miles but as we've already said, with half of that at a ruling grade of 1 in 70 southbound and the need for something at each end, someone needs to do the (applied) maths carefully.
     
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    I doubt a fireman with a poorly steaming loco would agree. :)
     
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  19. andalfi1

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    I was under the impression they had rebuilt the 30 miles to Tweedbank ? Plus the 5 miles or so from Waverley to the former railhead, makes it 35 miles each way.....
     
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