Mk1 Coach maintenance manuals

Hi all

Does anyone have any manuals in pdf format for the BR1 and 2 bogies ect. and outstation maintenance, such as specs on buffer heights ect. I remember Frank Nicolas (Weltrol) posted these to people via email a few years ago, I did received copies from Frank back then but unfortunately these were on an old laptop which the hardrive failed on so I lost them. Would anybody be able to email any information to me, coachbuilderdan@gmail.com

In need of some info for a corridor second coach our volunteers group are trying to get into service at the moment

Many thanks for any help on this,

Dan

 

Chapter 3 of BR 10906 - Regulations for the Repair of B.R. Standard Locomotive Hauled Coaching Vehicles at Main Works - May 1969 ought to cover it.

Frank kindly sent me a scanned copy a few years back & I re-typeset it to bring the file size down.

Pete S.
C&W Dept.,
GWS Didcot.

 

Would anyone know if there is a Wagon version of this document?

 

I've not got a copy myself, but believe the wagon version is BR11803 or BR11883

Also there is BR11819 with a lot of useful information copy of which can be found on the Barrowmore Model Railway Site at http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/BR11819_ExamRegsOCRV1Issue.pdf

 

Brilliant guys! just what I was looking for, does anyone know if a buckeye coupler knuckles can be built up with weld and machined seeing as there in compression, I know the pin and bushes wear which is straightforward to make. Also at the back where the locking face meets the dropping pin also wears which can be welded up and machined I guess as Ive seen BR repair one, but the Knuckles themselves have an unusual shape to them. If possible is the spec defined somewhere for machining?

 

I don't know the answer but I would guess that the material used is either a carbon or manganese steel and would require specific welding techniques to effect a suitable repair. Doing the wrong thing would effectively write off the components. Pins (especially) and bushes need to be of the correct material.

 

Many thanks for that link - quite a wealth of information there for all sorts.

Steve B

 

The link for a lot more information including vehicle diagram books can be found on the full Barrowmore Model Railway Site at http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html

 

BR built up the critical bit of the locking bar themselves, never seen any welding on the jaw or body. Welding on the locking bar will only affect the jaw closed measurement though, not jaw open. New jaws available, and jaw pins - these often get bent, try rotating it, if it is the jaw measurement will vary..... 8( Can't you swap the jaw with one on summat that doesn't run, and see how that gauges? One of those Mk2Es? Also worth looking at the drawbar rubbers, these get slowly mashed up, no test in CMS123 about these but then again that only 'at depots and outstations' there were other works exams..., but the buckeye wmay do strange things after a bit if they wear too much. NR now altered specs of these, a metal plate has to go in with them even when new to increase compression on them. Drawbar support pads wear also, making it all droop a bit.

 

Yea I see what you mean, so presumably the jaw itself is scrap at some stage? can make the pins and bushes ect. The wear pad below the drawhook I've turned them over before onto the better side when they end up with the droop effect, but Id imagine that doesnt last forever as its abit hollow underneath. Probably find some suitable material to replace them with when necessary like. The dragbox metalastic rubbers seem to come loose as they compress overtime and end up slipping round so have tightened the 3" nut up abit. I'll have to come and have a word about the jaw piece itself like, all interesting stuff . Ive got the dynamo bracket/hanger and eyebolt removed from the SK coach which had the dynamo on, its redundant so if its of any use at Rowsley .

 

Just read in one of the manuals that the body of the buckeye or the knuckles are scrap when eventually worn. That answered that one!