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Borders Railway Steam Services - Autumn 2015

الموضوع في 'What's Going On' بواسطة rule55, بتاريخ ‏22 إبريل 2015.

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  1. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Don't remember the A4 having any problems with 12 on, last time I was on that line.:p
     
    RalphW, ‏24 إبريل 2015
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  2. Big Al

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    Yes, you are quite right about the distance. It's 33 miles from Waverley to Galashiels to start with. Just looked at the gradient profile and there is no doubt that both ways, it's an interesting climb for steam.
     
    Big Al, ‏24 إبريل 2015
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    rule55 و andalfi1 معجبون بهذا.
  3. gricerdon

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    Got it thanks

    Don
     
    gricerdon, ‏24 إبريل 2015
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  4. gricerdon

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    Is Tweedbank Melrose as was?

    I had one chance to do this line in the days of steam, on the 410 pm Edinburgh to Hawick. We were sitting on the 4pm to KX in November 1964 and saw a B1 backing onto the Hawick train, but decided to stay put rather than return home overnight.

    Don
     
    gricerdon, ‏24 إبريل 2015
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  5. andalfi1

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    It's a new village (1970's) not quite a town, situated between Galashiels and Melrose.
    Andy
     
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  6. rule55

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    Not quite. It's a housing estate and roundabout south of Gala, Melrose's station is still extant but the trackbed is now the town's bypass.
     
    rule55, ‏24 إبريل 2015
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  7. John Stewart

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    All you need to do is look at the OS and all such details will be revealed.
     
    John Stewart, ‏25 إبريل 2015
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    Harbury و andalfi1 معجبون بهذا.
  8. steam_mad

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    Interesting to note that with the exception of two trips that are very nearly full, the rest (13) of the trips are sold out!
     
    steam_mad, ‏26 أوت 2015
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    andalfi1, lil Bear, mike1522 و 1 شخص آخر معجبون بهذا.
  9. lil Bear

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    All trips now sold out.
     
    lil Bear, ‏27 أوت 2015
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  10. andalfi1

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    I'd love to know what percentage of travelers are enthusiasts, should imagine it will be quite high ? Also looking forward to the visual treats in store on here....
     
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    Who else is going on one of the trips? I'm on the 8th October trip.
     
    mattspencer, ‏27 أوت 2015
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  12. andalfi1

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    Me for one, 30th September...
     
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    7 October. So the usual report and photos later that week.

    Peter on a sunny Manchester morning
    http://pjhtransportpix.zenfolio.com/
     
    pjhliners, ‏28 أوت 2015
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  14. Big Al

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    It will be interesting to see how they have loaded these trains. I'm guessing that they will be fairly short (partly because of the platform lengths for the normal services?) and so the accompanying diesel might just be an extra few coaches of weight on the outward leg. So here's hoping for those who have booked.

    Feels like a good candidate for a tnt arrangement in the future but given the TOC involved, it's possibly only the Riley 5s that might be available. (An A4 and a Britannia, for example, might be a tad OTT!)
     
    Big Al, ‏28 أوت 2015
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    Sitting here looking at the Roger Siviter book published in 2004 'Waverley Portrait of a famous Route'. It's reminded me of my one and only run north bound on route in 1966. This was a leg of the marathon weekend 'Aberdonian' run by the WRS. A couple of photos in this of the train near Whiterope summit. I think I was probably half asleep by this time as I can't recall too much of this part--to my eternal regret! Perhaps next year I'll do it again as far as it goes. Anybody else on the forum do this all those years ago? Six bells Junction has record of the weekend with pictures too. Happy days.
     
    camraman, ‏28 أوت 2015
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  16. camraman

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    Forgot to say trip above had 4472 on this leg.
     
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  17. Big Al

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    I was on 'The Waverley' charter in November 1966 when Bittern took us and 10 coaches from Leeds to York, Newcastle, Carlisle and then over the Waverley route to Edinburgh, returning down the ECML and back to Leeds from York. It was really quite a day for Bittern - nearly five hundred miles with the only main break at Edinburgh for just 80 minutes while the loco and passengers were serviced. That said, we were away from Leeds at 8 am and back by 9.30 pm and only 45 late that was pretty good given the tight timing of the day.

    The chance of a swift run from York to Newcastle was hampered by signal checks and a tsr on the Darlington to Ferryhill section but there was a nice interlude while water was taken at Hexham. On the Waverley, we went up to Whitrope at a steady speed of the high twenties and into the tunnel at 30 mph. The other climb to Falahill was started on the lower levels at around 50 dropping off slowly to 25 at the top with the constrained downhill running, speedwise, to Edinburgh. Some speedy running across the plain of York on the way home.

    I consider myself lucky to have travelled the Waverley route with steam. The opening of the truncated section is obviously no substitute for the original line but it is a remarkable response to demand and I hope that all these special trips pass without incident. As I hinted, I will wait for the time when they decide to run a few top-n-tail trips, or, better, do the sensible thing and put in a run round facility on the Borders Railway but I don't believe there is the space to do that now.
     
    Big Al, ‏28 أوت 2015
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  18. andalfi1

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    They could exchange the diesel for the K4 on this first set of trips, or at least one of them (preferably 30th Sept.) to see how they get on, that would be a true Scottish pairing ! but for future efforts, the dream pairing has to be 2 x B1, yes please...
     
    andalfi1, ‏28 أوت 2015
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    As one who used to sample the line in the 1950s when the Up "Waverley Sleeper" was my usual train south and arrival at Carlisle was met by Pacifics awaiting changeover on sleeper services, I am pleased to note that the line has been restored and am looking to photograph the first couple of runs.

    A quick warning however as I have been alerted that for "security" reasons some roads giving access to the railway will be closed off but - to date - I have not identified which ones; hopefully these will be around the terminus rather than at more rural locations.

    Local interest is reportedly high with local schools having a Willy Wonka do; children have been given chocolate bars and - if I understand the facts correctly - one bar in each school has a "Golden Ticket" to ride on the first train.

    If this latest opening reflects the initial operation of the Jacobite in 1985 then the local economy will receive a much welcome tourist boost whilst access to / from Edinburgh should be much improved.
     
    Fred Kerr, ‏28 أوت 2015
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  20. Bulleid Pacific

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    Was tempted to do one of these, but had to miss out for financial reasons. A case of 'can't do everything', particularly as all the refunds I've had from cancelled trips this year have helped to fund a move between rented accommodation.
     
    Bulleid Pacific, ‏28 أوت 2015
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