The Hadrian, 10 October 2015

Some likely times in RTT:
Out: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50659/2015/10/10/advanced
Ret: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50663/2015/10/10/advanced

 

The Carnforth - Hellifield E&C move:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50660/2015/10/10/advanced

 

Timings on RTT:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50659/2015/10/10/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50663/2015/10/10/advanced

Steam comes on at Hellifield, off at York.

 

As were pretty much in leaf fall season, should we expect a diesel on the back ?

 

Maybe, maybe not. There is a L/E move from Hellifield to York in the afternoon: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50661/2015/10/10/advanced Of course, it might just be a second DL. I guess it depends, in part, on whether the whole set is turned at Carlisle, requiring a loco at each end, or the Steam loco (and support coach) is turned separately. This appears to be the turning move: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50662/2015/10/10/advanced

 

I think after 46115 stalled in Cowran cutting a few years back at a similar time of year ( if I remember rightly ) the safe option has been to have the 47 on since then just incase .

 

If you look at the timings at Blackburn on the way out in 5098's post above, doesn't that suggest top and tail diesels with one of them being left at Hellifield and heading over to York?

 

Agreed. If you trace back the WCRC stock movements, it stables in Derby overnight before proceeding to Leicester via reversals at St Mary's Junction and Stenson Junction, and then of course a third reversal at Leicester and a fourth at Blackburn. So top and tail diesels to Hellifield, steam with one diesel on the back to York, then the other diesel that has come down from Hellifield resumes top and tail diesel operation from York, with reversals at Leicester and Derby North Junc. still to come.

The only other possibility is that both diesels proceed light engine from Hellifield to York. Somewhat unlikely, I feel!

 

Am I reading the timings rightly in that it goes via the York avoider? Has a steam hauled passenger train (as opposed to light engine turning moves) covered this in preservation? It's certainly very uncommon.

 

On the strength of the avoider (and hopefully some decent mileage behind 46115 to edge me closer towards clearing it for one), I've just booked it... Although, admittedly I'm waiting for the moment when we arrive at Skelton Junction and the signalman sends us left instead of right!

 

45690 in steam with no sign of 46115 so looks like Leander is the loco for tomorrow .

 

So double headed Jubilees over Copy Pit on Sunday then?

 

Jubilee 45690 'Leander' in fine form at Selside Shaw on the S&C.



Hope you enjoy.

 

LMS 5XP Class 4-6-0 No. 45690 'Leander' puts on a real show as it works 'The Hadrian' over the magnificent Ribblehead Viaduct en-route to Carlisle.

 

Footage of 45690 at Selside and Cowran Cutting .

 

Fiddlers Lane near Lazonby on the S&C and Denton Foot near Narworth on the Tyne Valley Line.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/iancawthorne/21888462429/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/iancawthorne/21454241023/

 

Great videos, Phil & Steve, Leander really does dig her heels in on the S& C - what a fantastic sound!! Cheers chaps.

Alan

 

A great day for Leander indeed. Great to see her in top class condition.