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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Reading General, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. Reading General

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    If you restored this loco to use, could you retain this or would you lose it and more originality? DSC09324.JPG
     
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    That would have to stay.
     
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    No30? Part of its history so it would have to stay. Not much chance of it being restored though-too expensive, too small for mainline use and too large for dcdr use.

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    But would it stay? I'd say it would be ripped out without a second thought and replaced with new. It's Dunluce Castle
     
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    Looking at the writing, the photo has been reversed.
     
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    no it hasn't ...think about it... :)
     
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    The writing is on the outside of the cab on perspex sheets to stop people getting into the cab.
    No74 is unlikely to steam either-another loco that would require too much money. Most of the locos in cultra are in a similar positions they look good from the outside but underneath they are very worn machines with many problems.
    What makes you think that? Is there a precedent in N.Ireland/S.Ireland? I would've thought if anyone was to restore it, the rpsi would be doing the work and they have a very good reputation.

    As I say its all pie in the sky dreaming anyway!


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    no such thing as S Ireland. No 74 is almost certain to be in better condition than many Barry wrecks.
     
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    Thanks. Now I can see it.
     
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    I was referring to northern and southern Ireland.
    No74 was assessed some years ago and from memory she needs a new driving wheel, new cylinder block and I think there was major boiler surgery required. Might be better than a Barry wreck, but still too expensive in a region with limited enthusiasts and therefore finance.


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    No such thing as southern Ireland either unless you mean southern as opposed to western or eastern Ireland, or indeed northern Ireland.

    I've no doubt all the locos in Cultra are essentially as they came out of service. I don't accept that any f them are unrestorable though. Just look at GNR 131, plinthed for years and now back form the dead.
     
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    OK n.ireland/roi - happy now? I think everyone else knew what I meant.

    Yes the locos in cultra could be restored (i didnt say they couldnt) but the cost would be huge and most of them are not appropriate to current mainline or heritage use anywhere on the island. Steam enthusiasts (and population in general) in Ireland (n + s) are so dispersed that it makes preservation very difficult from both a logistics/manpower situation and also from a financial situation. Mainland UK certainly has access to a lot more volunteers and money.


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    it's true but there are quite a few locos there that would be very usable both somewhere like Downpatrick and also on the various narrow gauge lines (most of which are struggling or very basic with ex BnMona diesels to the fore).

    It's not just the factors you gove that are inplay but also there isn't the same ethos to volunteer in the Republic (imo)
     
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    I think that applies in many countries, very small groups of enthusiasts and an apathetic general public who could not care less about railways in any shape or form.
     
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