Pre-1916 locos in steam in 2016

Fair point, although the T3s were arguably not needed in large numbers as the T2s were perfectly competent machines, and as 2238 has demonstrated in preservation they were also surprisingly versatile.

Now there's a thought for another thread: which goods engine classes have been the most successful as passenger engines in preservation?

 

Erm, ok, now you guys have got off your chest whose heavy freight loco is more puissant...
Isn't it great we have all these over 100 year old locos in action. I think at least one is over 150 (FR20)!
Not to mention those old NG beauties in Gwynedd who I excluded in my original question...

 

Outright: Nothing touches a 9F if we're honest, power and speed.

Pres: more difficult, A 4F or 3205 would suffice for many, but be underpowered for a Moors or Churnet Valley.

 

Ah yes, but the 9Fs saw passenger service with BR, and although I initially thought of the Austerity tanks they also saw plenty of passenger use on military railways. I'm talking about classes which never pulled a passenger train until preservation.

 

Aberdare Class 2-6-0s I would guess.

 

Think you'd be struggling to find a mainline type that hasn't been bolted to a set of coaches at least once, be it due to a failure, railtour or whatever, some of the types mentioned were pretty common on passenger workings, others less so but still far from unknown.

 

It wont be long before the first Castles & Flying Scotsman reach their centenary ....................

 

5322 next year

 

We had a triple centenary about six years ago when 27, 178 and 323 all reached their hundredth birthday. I was firing 323 all yesterday on one of the service trains: amazing to think that despite being 106 years old this year, she has spent longer in preservation than in her first career!

I think currently on the Bluebell 14 out of 32 engines (whether in traffic or not) are over 100 years old, a good number of those well past that figure. Fenchurch is not far short of 150, and it is hoped she will be running for that special birthday.

Tom

 

813 should be back this year and was built in 1901.

 

The NER P3 (LNER J27) & T2 (LNER Q6) would probably fit this bill as they were simple 'rusty coupling' engines - 3 link an no vac brake - until the preservation era so banned from passenger trains. The best they could have done was give a struggling train a gentle shove.

 

But it's good that you've added the vac brake. They are certainly enjoyable to travel behind - or at least the Q6 is (I can't speak for the J27). It took me on my first ever trip on the NYMR in 1981 and I was pretty impresed. I enjoyed watching a recent video someone posted on this forum showing that 63395 still puts on a good show over 30 years later.

 

The rollcall so far seems to be, from oldest to new centenarians:

Furness 0-4-0 N° 20 of 1863 at Shildon

Haydock Collieries 0-6-0WT “Bellerophon” of 1874 at Foxfield

LBSCR A1X Class 0-6-0T N° 32670 ‘Bodiam’ of 1872 on KESR Terriers

LBSCR A1X Class 0-6-0T N° W8 ‘Freshwater’ of 1876 at IoWSR

GER 209 Class 0-4-0ST Coffee Pot N° 229 of 1876 at Flour Mill

Dorking Greystone Lime Works 0-4-0T Nׄ° 3 “Captain Baxter” Fletcher Jennings of 1877 at the Bluebell

LBSCR A1X Class 0-6-0T N° W11 ’Newport’ of 1878 at IoWSR

Beyer Peacock 0-4-0ST WN 1827 of 1879 at Foxfield

LBSCR A1X Class 0-6-0T N° 32678 ‘Knowle’ of 1880 on KESR Terriers

NER H Class 0-4-0T N° 1310 of 1891 at Middleton

Manning Wardle L Class 0-6-0ST N° 1210 ‘Sir Berkeley’ of 1891 at Middleton

LSWR O2 Class 0-4-4T N° W24 ‘Calbourne’ of 1891 at IoWSR

LYR Class 27 0-6-0 N° 12322 of 1896 on ELR

LBSCR E4 Class 0-6-2T N° B473 of 1898 at the Bluebell

Taff Vale Railway 0-6-2T N° 85 of 1899 on KWVR.

LSWR T9 Class 4-4-0 N° 30120 of 1899 on B&W

Shelton Iron & Steel Works 0-4-0T crane tank Dübs WN 4101 of 1901 at Foxfield

Port Talbot Railway 0-6-0ST N° 813 of 1901

SECR C Class 0-6-0 N° 592 of 1902 at the Bluebell

Manning Wardle L Class 0-6-0ST N° 1601 ‘Matthew Murray’ of 1903 at Middleton

Manchester Ship Canal 0-6-0T N° 32 ‘Gothenburg’ of 1903 at ELR

SECR H Class 0-4-4T N° 263 of 1905 at the Bluebell

GWR 2800 Class 2-8-0 N° 2807 of 1905 at G&WR

LSWR M7 Class 0-4-4T N° 30053 of 1905 at Swanage

Caley 0-4-4T N° 419 of 1907 on Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway

SECR P Class 0-6-0T N° 178 of 1910 at the Bluebell

SECR P Class 0-6-0T N° 323 “Bluebell” of 1910 at the Bluebell

GER Y14 Class 0-6-0 N° 564 of 1912 on NNR

Andrew Barclay 0-4-0ST Rosyth No.1 of 1914 at P&B

Peckett 0-4-0ST WN 1370 ‘May’ of 1915 on ELR

GWR 4200 Class 2-8-0T N° 4247 of 1916 at B&WR

That is quite a list! We should be very grateful to those who keep these old ladies going. Obviously some are not in "original" condition, but still an amazing list (probably some I have missed, too).

 

You can add the LNWR Coal Tank of 1888 to that list as well. She'll be visiting the Bluebell for our March Gala, no doubt appearing alongside our resident centenarians.

http://ingrowlocomuseum.com/?page_id=13

Tom

(p.s. - I think you have number 2 and 3 on your list the wrong way round if you want it ordered chronologically).

 

Add in a couple of Beattie well tanks (1874?) and Met No 1 of 1898.

 

Remember the Shildon Cavalcade in 1975? In less than ten years, we'll be celebrating the 200th anniversary of the Stockton & Darlington.

(So long as it's not planned like the aborted celebration in the year 2000).

 

There's "Terrier 150" to plan first

Was Fenchurch the only Centenarian at the 1975 Shildon Cavalcade?

Tom

 

No. Wantage Tramway No. 5, "Shannon" of 1857 and Stirling Single No. 1 of 1870, L.N.W.R. 2-4-0 "Hardwicke" of 1873, and N.E.R. 2-4-0 No. 901 of 1874 were all involved.

www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-zp85M/

 

AB 1219 1910 can be added to this list.

 

Thanks for those photos - what a spectacular! Looks like Shannon, Hardwicke and Fenchurch were in steam, and No. 1 and No. 901 were towed.

Tom