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Flying Scotsman

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. 46223

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    The 'Dailyfail' gets it wrong again! The loco in the video is 4476 'Royal Lancer'!
    Still, it had a 'Flying Scotsman' headboard....so that's ok.:rolleyes:
     
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    Of course the non-stop run shown on the poster wasn't a record. The record was set the previous Friday by a Scot running the 401.4 miles from Euston to Glasgow, followed 10 minutes later by a Compound running 399.7 miles to Edinburgh. Just a pity that the LMS didn't let the Compound out first so that it could have broken the record twice within minutes! :)
     
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    And you're blaming me for their failings?.................. :(

    Do Joe Public know or care?...... doubt it!........ :Saywhat:

    Are the NRM happy she's still being kept in the public eye?..... probably! ;) :)
     
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    Those of us not in the eastern camp just like to keep the record straight.:Arewealone:
     
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    ref the other tender has it been converted to a normal one i.e. to take coal and water or is it in original water carrier mode?
     
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    When Bittern ran as DONZ it definitely had some outings with two tenders...the 2nd as a water carrier.

     
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    She also ran as 60019 with two tenders. Iwas on the Coronation couple yrs ago-19KX-ED-KX and GB4 19 KX-York. 2 tenders seemed to ffer no advantage at all from a passenger perspective we still spent the time looped as if we were watering, I assume for pathing.
     
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    Having worked for the last week on that diagram with the artist, we really tried to get it right - an amazing piece of work when you consider he was only commissioned to do it last Friday.
     
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    Anthony, apologies - it wasn't meant in that way... merely meant as a humorous comment following the pages of livery debates in the pages before this one!

    Perhaps one of these: ;) at the end would've made the difference!

    James

    EDIT: And actually, I think the diagram looks really rather smashing...
     
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    No need to apologise James, I got your humour completely - believe me, when dealing with this engine and all the comments, one needs to be able to take a step back and smile!

    I merely meant to comment that John Lawson deserves highest credit for working to get it right with no prior knowledge of a steam loco at all, but a technical illustrator. I was impressed with his comment on our first chat "so the loco has three engines then" and knew he'd do well. He confessed to me that it's pretty much a months' work done in a week!

    As for the colour and all those who think it's had too much exposure or are bored with it - I personally (work hat off) think that anything that portrays steam heritage in a positive light and gets air space on national media is a good thing (whatever colour it is). And I'm not an LNER/BR/A3 devotee. Just a steam enthusiast.
     
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    And I'll add a further complaint. The trip was historic, not historical.
     
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    Logically history starts yesterday, so therefore the trip is now historical, but don't we need the verdict of future historians to decide whether it was in fact historic?
     
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    Agree with last paragraph, there have been a few occassions when the media latched on to railway heritage in a sensible way, Rocket 150 was the one when, for the first time that I can remember being a railway enthusiast became respectable. The second was the completion of Tornado and now FS.
     
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    [​IMG] Water carrier FISH7373 81C NFP
     
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    Please note the yellow gate in the corridor. I saw Bittern when it visited Stratford u Avon. Turning is achieved using the triangle at Hatton. Sighting round single tender is difficult - two tenders a bit dodgy. The solution was for a rider to sit in the corridor, with the yellow gate for safety, and comunicate by radio with the footplate. Thanfully for the rider it was a warm and dry day
     
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    In the days of the twin tendered 4472 they used to attach a goods brake van, not to many of them available now!
     
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