New Build Class 22

Been on FB for a decade. Zero problems. Best source of info for heritage railways, new builds etc etc

 

A worthy project. I can't quite remember the 22s, honoured to remember Wessies, Hymeks and Warships. I'll look up the group on F/B and here's a photo to be going on with, it's in Devon in 1969 - my father who worked for BR had a brake an pass and did the NBL Tiverton Jn to Hemyock and back in a LMS BV, along with a rake of milk tanks and a 22. He didn't log the number and I only found and scanned the slide after he had passed away. He was meticulous with detail, so will be in 1969s diary when I find it!

Regards Paul ps apologies for splashing copyright over it, some oik lifted some of my shots and put them on Internet and claimed an error......tish

 

or when being towed by the rescue loco.....

seriously though the class 22 is a visually distinctive design and I would very much like to see one in the flesh. I hope the project succeeds

Jon

 

Agreed. However, you will, I suspect, have your security screwed tight, won't use 'fun and entertaining' games/apps embedded in it and are careful who your FB 'friends' are. Not everyone is careful, or understands the risks...

 

rubbish...just don't put anything on facebook that you don't want shared. The advantages outweigh the alleged disadvantages.

The comments you get from non-users always raise a smile. If you don't want to use it that's fine, but there's no call to make stuff up to justify yourselves.

 

RG, your intolerance does you no favours. I choose not to use Fudbook because I don't trust its security, I don't like the way that it is a global self-aggrandising festival of "lookatmelookatmelookatmelookatme", I'm not interested in seeing 400 photos of my friend's brat's birthday party and, personally, I prefer to interact with my friends in the old-fashioned way of seeing them face to face to talk about their experiences and see their holiday snaps.

Personally I find it absolutely tragic how many people I know go places that are interesting, but their default position is "If you want to see photos, you can see them on Facebook." I think it's very sad that folk are now so lazy that they can't even be arsed to put their digital photos on an iPad or laptop and take them round to show them to friends over coffee or a pint. People call Facebook 'social' media, but from everything I see it's really antisocial media - nowadays it's so much less effort to blether about your life on screen from your own home than pick up the phone or actually go out to meet people. It's making people lazy, slowly killing proper, interpersonal communication by making them not bother to make a proper effort.

I also don't like the way that Zuckerberg is trying to take over the world with this, that and the other project. For the same reason I don't use Google as a search engine and only use Virgin East Coast because whichever way I go south on the train I am now forced to put money in old Beardy's pocket.

None off this is 'making stuff up'. These are my opinions, which are not 'rubbish' - they are opinions which are no more, but also no less valid than yours. I happen to disagree with you, which is my choice. It is not 'rubbish'.

But there are other people like me out here who also choose not to use Fudbook. So I repeat my original point, that if any preservation project chooses to only be accessible via it, then they are missing out on potential members.

As with everything in life, Facebook conforms to the old adage that you get what you pay for...

 

quoting myself "If you don't want to use it that's fine".

The bottom line is you put on facebook what you want to be seen by your target audience, if you don't want it seen , you don't put it on there. Simples. It's a service, plain and simple, the limitations are known, but you are in control by deciding what to post and what not to.

""If you want to see photos, you can see them on facebook" . So what ? there are thousands of books at the Library, I can view them if I wish, but I have to join the Library to do it.

I can take my laptop round and show my friends, but what of the ones the other side of the world and all the ones I've come to know on the very many fb groups?


I'm intolerant of people who rubbish fb without knowing what it's for or what it does.

 

Given thst you're obviously an expert, RG, perhaps you would be kind enough to spend some time imparting your wisdom on The Correct Way To Use Fudbook to many people i know (plus several million others) who all seem to use it as a way of going 'mememememe' to all the other Fudbook drones, instead of putting time and effort into maintaining proper relationships?

Only today I was talking to someone who, with a degree of wonderment in his voice, was relating the tale of how he had picked up the phone to a friend for the first time in four years and of how wonderfully rewarding he had found talking to him "despite the fact that we had been 'in touch' via Facebook." That, to me, said everything.

For my English Literature O level back in 1984, we studied a certain book by George Orwell. Many of my classmates and I were thoroughly spooked by the dystopian vision of a society where everybody did what was expected of them, nobody had any real privacy and screens spouted propaganda 24/7. Little did we know that all of those things would arrive, in their own way, less than 30 years later, facilitated by the internet. And what i find most sinister of all is the way it has all been sold to a gullible human race as stuff that we want.

Cheaper car insurance is good, right? Use this app so we can follow you everywhere you go. Want to navigate more easily instead of having to stop and look at a map? Use this app to direct you while we follow you everywhere you go. Try this forward facing camera to video chat with your chums... we can watch as well. Use our social media network and tell us even more about yourself. Use this handy discount store card and buy now, pay later credit card and we'll keep tabs on everything you buy and eat. Use these forums and your handheld telescreen (which you can turn off, but we know you won't because we've marketed it as so essential) will push propaganda at you in the form of adverts. The vast majority of you will all act obediently and agree that you want all this stuff because of the very basic human instinct that you don't want to feel you're being left out...

1984 is all there, right here and now.

"Being in control" is a complete myth. There is no such thing as privacy any more. For Big Brother read big business... what I find most scary is the way people blanch at 1984 when it's presented as a dystopian nightmare, but when exactly the same set of parameters has been presented in a different way, as things to make life easier / cheaper / better, folk have gone "Brilliant, bring it on..."

As an evidently quite ardent proponent of Facebook, along with many, many others you unwittingly play the O'Brien role to a tee. 2+2=5?

 

Maybe we can get back to Project 22 instead of debating the rights and wrongs of social media in the 21St Century.

For what it's worth I think the Project 22 lot are a complete bunch of nut jobs, so it gets a thumbs up from me, you're welcome to the content of my wallet if I see you out and about and I look forward to the completed project.

 

you want to keep an eye on that paranoia

 

Probably believes in Chemtrails too.

 

If the internet is so bad, one wonders why 'disusedbranch' chooses to use it, and even worse, go onto an internet forum with adverts...


Keith

 

Without wishing to prolong this off-topic debate (oops I just did), it seems to me some people still have the "man with a red flag" mind set. Either that or their circle of acquaintances doesn't stretch beyond the parish boundary?

 

Found a website

http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=21547&gallery=British+Railways+Wigan&offset=0