If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

The Scot Commemorative 16th April

Discuție în 'What's Going On' creată de 1020 Shireman, 22 Mar 2016.

Pagina 3 din 9
  1. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Înscris:
    11 Sep 2005
    Mesaje:
    36.449
    Aprecieri primite:
    9.910
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Locație:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    If you must know, yes, my contact says it's still in the NR planning system, but I don't know why I bother.
     
    RalphW, 11 Apr 2016
    #41
    andalfi1 și Waterbuck apreciază asta.
  2. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

    Înscris:
    22 Sep 2011
    Mesaje:
    4.206
    Aprecieri primite:
    2.072
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    Retired
    Locație:
    Hilton, Derby
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    In case of difficulty they could always have renumbered it.;)
     
    John Stewart, 11 Apr 2016
    #42
  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Înscris:
    30 Mai 2009
    Mesaje:
    22.594
    Aprecieri primite:
    22.726
    Locație:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Big Al, 12 Apr 2016
    #43
  4. 30567

    30567 Part of the furniture Friend

    Înscris:
    7 Aug 2012
    Mesaje:
    6.125
    Aprecieri primite:
    4.088
    I'm not surprised they're having trouble pathing it. The Statesman Rail from Ely goes northbound up the coast arriving Carlisle platform 3 1352 no path southbound over Shap yet, presumably 1450 or 1550. The Bridlington departs Carlisle platform 3 at 1410 southbound round the coast having arrived just after 12. It's going to be musical trains at Carlisle.
     
    Last edited: 12 Apr 2016
    30567, 12 Apr 2016
    #44
  5. Oswald T Wistle

    Oswald T Wistle Well-Known Member Friend

    Înscris:
    16 Iul 2013
    Mesaje:
    1.602
    Aprecieri primite:
    7.085
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    ESI Eng Manager (Retd)
    Locație:
    NE Lancs
    Just got my e ticket, north via the coast, south via Shap



    08.40 Crewe 22.01

    09.31 Wigan North Western 21.05

    10.10 Preston 20.32

    15.50 (arr.) Carlisle 17.53 (dep.)
     
    Oswald T Wistle, 12 Apr 2016
    #45
  6. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Înscris:
    30 Mai 2009
    Mesaje:
    22.594
    Aprecieri primite:
    22.726
    Locație:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A nice long steam day :) but timings that screw up any hope of getting to and from Crewe if you don't live within about a 50 mile radius of Crewe. :mad: Still you get what you get I suppose. It's a good chunk of Scot mileage.
     
    Big Al, 12 Apr 2016
    #46
  7. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Înscris:
    31 Iul 2013
    Mesaje:
    2.858
    Aprecieri primite:
    2.749
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    Relaxingly retired
    Locație:
    Deep in the country
    Like myself, 140 miles away and no chance of getting back by train. 7hrs and 10 mins Crewe to Carlisle? Must be a preservation record.
     
    1020 Shireman, 12 Apr 2016
    #47
  8. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Înscris:
    30 Mai 2009
    Mesaje:
    22.594
    Aprecieri primite:
    22.726
    Locație:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You should try Victoria to Exeter on a bad day. It has been known to take six and a half hours. Even Tornado only just beat five and half hours from Waterloo last weekend. It's called 'steam on the national network'. Live with it or live without it. (Sorry I'm in reflective mood today!)
     
    Big Al, 12 Apr 2016
    #48
  9. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Înscris:
    12 Mai 2006
    Mesaje:
    19.232
    Aprecieri primite:
    17.566
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Locație:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Its definitely a bloody long day, be interested to see the detailed timings....
     
    GWR4707, 12 Apr 2016
    #49
  10. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Înscris:
    31 Iul 2013
    Mesaje:
    2.858
    Aprecieri primite:
    2.749
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    Relaxingly retired
    Locație:
    Deep in the country
    Will they be handing out Kendal Mintcake and Marathon blankets?
     
    1020 Shireman, 12 Apr 2016
    #50
    Kje7812 apreciază asta.
  11. dublo6231

    dublo6231 Member

    Înscris:
    22 Aug 2011
    Mesaje:
    577
    Aprecieri primite:
    474
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    IT
    Locație:
    Sat at home
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Afternoon all, just working out loading and going from the coach I'm in (J) I'm up to 11. I'd think that's probably about the right sort of loading - edit it might help if I read the ticket fully...
     
    Last edited: 14 Apr 2016
    dublo6231, 12 Apr 2016
    #51
  12. iancawthorne

    iancawthorne Well-Known Member

    Înscris:
    23 Aug 2010
    Mesaje:
    1.789
    Aprecieri primite:
    6.133
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Locație:
    Brampton, Cumbria
    Looking at past Cumbrian Mountain Expresses that went from Crewe to Carlisle via the S&C, the times are 6am off Crewe, 1pm into Carlisle = 7 hours, so nothing new.

    Example : http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t15/t0815b.htm
     
    iancawthorne, 12 Apr 2016
    #52
    Waterbuck apreciază asta.
  13. iancawthorne

    iancawthorne Well-Known Member

    Înscris:
    23 Aug 2010
    Mesaje:
    1.789
    Aprecieri primite:
    6.133
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Locație:
    Brampton, Cumbria
    Sounds like it should be passing Galatea somewhere near Whitehaven/Workington around 3pm.
     
    iancawthorne, 12 Apr 2016
    #53
    sgthompson apreciază asta.
  14. Waterbuck

    Waterbuck Member

    Înscris:
    26 Apr 2009
    Mesaje:
    885
    Aprecieri primite:
    611
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Locație:
    West Yorkshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    But isn't that the same as early starts from London or say Bristol that people in the North would face ?
     
    Waterbuck, 12 Apr 2016
    #54
  15. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

    Înscris:
    17 Iul 2007
    Mesaje:
    2.950
    Aprecieri primite:
    4.382
    Locație:
    Powys
    We live in mid Wales and it is still doable leaving the car at Craven Arms, with trains leaving up to beyond 11pm to allow for delays. It is steam hauled throughout, includes Cumbrian Coast and has the advertised locomotive - all things the doom mongerers were saying may not happen! So well done Rtc, wcrc and network rail for pulling this out the bag - dare say some will still moan! Now really looking forward to this, my first big steam tour since the fabulous Scottish Lowlander (not much to live up to!).
     
    acorb, 12 Apr 2016
    #55
    Waterbuck apreciază asta.
  16. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

    Înscris:
    7 Noi 2005
    Mesaje:
    1.272
    Aprecieri primite:
    788
    Better check that. Last train Crewe to Craven Arms 2109, theres a 2314 to Shrewsbury only. Apart from that,hope you have a great day!
     
    alastair, 12 Apr 2016
    #56
  17. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Înscris:
    30 Mai 2009
    Mesaje:
    22.594
    Aprecieri primite:
    22.726
    Locație:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A totally reasonable comment. Clearly this is a trip that starts in the north west and is designed for those in the north west. By the way, it was an excellent trip as originally conceived so I have no argument about that at all.

    The original outline timings - 0900 from Crewe, returning at 1930 (still shown on the web site, but don't get me started on that) - gave good margins at either end for a day trip from London so it was potentially the best of both worlds for everyone. That is not now possible but if you are the tour operator and you can fill the train, I guess that it doesn't matter who is on it and I realise that.

    So no complaints, just sadness that you can plan absolutely nothing much nowadays until a few days before. So much for domestic harmony. :(
     
    Big Al, 12 Apr 2016
    #57
    mike1522, Waterbuck și western nobleman apreciază asta.
  18. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

    Înscris:
    17 Iul 2007
    Mesaje:
    2.950
    Aprecieri primite:
    4.382
    Locație:
    Powys
    Yes, you're quite correct, Shrewsbury is the limit by looks of it. Living where we do it always involves a bit of travel, haven't seen many pick ups from Newtown or Llandrindod recently!
     
    acorb, 12 Apr 2016
    #58
  19. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

    Înscris:
    12 Iun 2008
    Mesaje:
    4.010
    Aprecieri primite:
    9.837
    Sex:
    Masculin
    Ocupație:
    Tobacco manufacturing
    Locație:
    Kendal
    Best pick your best quess location Ian
     
    sgthompson, 12 Apr 2016
    #59
  20. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Înscris:
    30 Mai 2009
    Mesaje:
    22.594
    Aprecieri primite:
    22.726
    Locație:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Looking at the timings for Saturday, it seems that NR is in no hurry for the charter to get off the M northbound. We are booked 45 minutes to Wigan for the 36 miles. And then we are given 29 minutes for the 15 miles onward to Preston. Even slower on the return from Preston to Wigan and about the same back to Crewe. Oh, and Carlisle to Carnforth in 102 minutes including a 20 minute refreshment break at Plumpton.

    Someone back up thread suggested that the day was a bit of a marathon. That's part of the reason but I guess you you take what you are given nowadays. A possibly great day nonetheless.
     
    Big Al, 12 Apr 2016
    #60
Pagina 3 din 9

Distribuie pagina asta