Fife Circle - Flying Scotsman - 15/05/16

Beautifully put my friend.

 

And what's worse is the stupid ruddy public paid for and own the ruddy thing

At the end of the day, this is all the fault of the NRM. To justify what they have spent they had to garner maximum publicity. And now we are in a position where the national loco can not be seen because the nation have decided its too dangerous for them. What a complete and utter farce.

 

Be good to get some vids of the tour today. There will be hundreds who are "in the know" and will have timings of one sort or another and so will be "shooting" out and about.

As for this issue of trespass, it is the few who are spoiling things for the many. I know we live in a new age, but I always find it fascinating when looking back at old vids of mainline tours and to see trespass of the highest order, down ramps, on the running lines (mainly when tour is stopped at stations), climbing up signal posts, etc. Great times! And the British Transport Police just didn't seem to worry!

 

Because the families of those accidentally run over would not have dreamt of suing anybody else...

 

NR will do this.....NR will do that.......You have an impeccable source of information.

Lets cut out the hyperbole of 'flesh of deceased trespassers and 'body parts on the tracks.' There will be over 30 people killed on the roads and over 400 seriously injured next week and that's if it is a below average week (RAC) At least lets get a sense of proportion. And cannot the BTP take some action and fine the perpetrators the maximum or is that just too difficult.

 

But it doesn't stop you going out and videoing the "ruddy thing" does it.... You appear to want it both ways, slag it off, then publish your video of it. Hypocrisy or what....

 

Totally agree Ralph, how can you point finger at the NRM due to the behaviour of senseless numpties???

 

I'll take no lessons in Hypocrisy from you. One day you may learn to debate the argument rather than try and cross swords with the poster

 

Clearly the NRM aren't responsible for individual behaviour but they have stoked the current public hysteria for all things 'Scotsman'. Victims of their own success in this respect. I think they do have some obligation now to support the policing of crowds until the interest subsides to the normal level of indifference. Its much like a small football club having a cup run - they would I believe be expected to contribute at least in part to the identified additional policing costs.

 

With respect, this is a discussion forum, of course it open to debate about a ridiculous standpoint, a closed forum (not this thread obviously) is far safer than Facebook or other social media.

 

Yet Network Rail publishes this information on its website which is why RTT, which takes its data from NR feeds, is able to display the FULL details of passing times.

Hypocrisy or a case of the Left Hand not knowing what the Right Hand is doing ?

 

Ironic init, about the only time they manage to get a: a tour that runs and b: get steam on the front, and they want to keep it a secret.

 

Yes thats true, They only info they normally get is "cancelled" and thats at the last minute.

 

The 'Timings' post said you 'have been in conversations with' nothing refering to who instigated the conversation. If it was a direct request, that's a bit different. But there is an element of farce which is all to obvious. In fact the whole Secret Scotsman saga is a futile farce.