Welsh Marches Express - Cardiff: 27/11/16

Does any kind soul know if water is taken at Hereford outbound please? The link to the timings on uksteaminfo does not work at the moment.

Thanks

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Edit: RTT shows Hereford as 11-01 to 11-29, and platform 1, so probably is a water stop.
Two engines and 12 coaches will be too long for that platform and block entry to platform 2 for any southbound services.

 

Have things changed there? 61306 did a Cardiff last year and no box involved at all.

 

Hopefully the fives will be allowed to take the whole train up Colwall and Llanvihangel tomorrow on their own, a combined weight of seven coaches each shouldn't be to much of an issue. I guess if a lot of time is dropped the driver of the diesel will be put to work.

 

34067 managed 11 up there in 2013 alone, so apart from a brief shove if things are slow leaving Malvern, I think Colwall can be done by the pair. I'd say the Lickey is 60-40 in favour of some shovage due to the standing start, but we won't know what will happen on the day. Still looking forward to it.

 

Thanks for that.

 

corrected that for you.

 

Those percentage will prove to be wrong, I'm sorry to say. On the Lickey, bank (pardon the pun!!) on 100% shovage. Have you seen how steep it is up there? You are

 

Nope. It's a box. Get used to the idea!!

 

I am what? 1 in 37 for two miles is steep, but as I said, it is what it is. 100% shovage means that there will be absolutely no work up front whatsoever. Looking at videos of 9466, it gives me hope that the steam will be doing about 60% of the work, if not more.

 

100% shoveage doesn't mean that at all because a 47 probably couldn't push a 640 ton train up you (11 coaches plus 2*125 ton engines).

 

What a patronising post. If the TOC had those concerns they should have had them when the train was requested and told the promoter that a steam hauled train on the route was not possible. We know that the issues are only Colwall and the Lickey and we did the Chester run over the Marches with 12 last week. Llanvihangel from a standing start is far worse than Malvern to Colwall. The diesel IS the problem if the load is only 11. At least WCRC could have sent it to Cardiff so the outward would have been proper steam.

 

Just seen the ECS leaving Rugby, 47 on the front piloting the 5's.

 

Was the standard coaches on the front ?

 

Standard class is at the front.

 

Changed it back for you.
Just for your info, I'm on a Facebook group for 34B, 34C and 34D personnel and friends. There's a thread about the Cambridge Buffet and even the diesel drivers refer to boxes - in this case the Class 40.

 

Currently at International waiting for the off. Brush Type 4 ticking over on the rear.