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What Ifs, and Locos that never were.

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Jimc, 27. Veljača 2015..

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  1. Corbs

    Corbs Well-Known Member

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  2. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

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    Thinking about it, there must presumably have been a number of loco designs that but for WW2/Nationalisation/Whatever had been developed to the point of being close to construction - if so which ones?
     
    johnofwessex, 15. Prosinac 2016.
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  3. Matt37401

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    36002-5!
     
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  4. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

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    They suffered from lack of leadership.;)
     
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    Diesel hydraulics using Krauss-Maffei technology?

     
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  6. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

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    Say more................
     
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  7. LesterBrown

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    Note the smiley, I was just thinking that the war would certainly put an end to any thoughts of using German technology.

    Regarding steam locos it should be remembered that Stanier continued turning out fully streamlined pacifics until 1943.
     
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  8. John Stewart

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    I though that the war enabled us to use German technology without paying the patent fees.:)
     
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  9. Jimc

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    I have a feeling I've seen somewhere that patent fees were held in an account in Switzerland for the duration. In those days wouldn't foreign companies have had a British agent to collect the fees? And so presumably that wouldn't change: the agents would still want to collect. New military technology, on the other hand presumably wouldn't been patented - vision of Bletchley Park carefully studying all the new German patent applications!
     
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  10. johnofwessex

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    There is a specific legal official in the UK called The Custodian of Enemy Property & various conventions relating to wartime & occupation arrangements. I understand that in some cases the custodians did such a good job the property owners hired them at the wars end.

    Needless to say of course in Iraq the good old US has ignored all these rules..........................
     
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  11. johnofwessex

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  12. 35B

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    I think that the position varies. Certainly, the British performing copyright in Richard Strauss' music lies with a British publisher (Boosey & Hawkes from memory) following wartime measures.
     
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    One I'd have liked to have seen was Freddie Hawksworth's proposed 0-8-0PT
     
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    Our SLS Christmas Card whimsy this year from Santa's Locomotive Suppliers is the GWR Fictional Branchline class.

    The concept - The post-war railway modelling boom led to a significant, albeit fictional, growth in GWR branch line mileage. Clearly, had reality seen these lines built, Swindon GWR/BR(W) would have faced an extreme motive power crisis requiring an innovative solution. The need, locomotives with a light axle load, a short yet flexible chassis and equally small wheels to provide adequate adhesion on the many improbably steep gradients. Recent research in the SLS Library has discovered an initial concept drawing for the 99XX class; a twin bogie, 0-4-4-0 ST Mallet design supplying the necessary solution and available in model form for one night only, by special delivery direct from Santa’s Locomotive Supplies, Santa’s Workshops, The North Pole.
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    Reality: A merger of two drawings from our, now out of print, 2nd Book of Locomotive Drawings. The MOS 0-6-0 ST (Slightly extended here) was drawn by Arthur F Cook and the wheel sets are from Lynn & Fakenham Rly 0-4-0 ST Alpha drawn by A M Wells. (Please excuse the technical improbablities.)

    Copyright statement     Designed for the SLS by Island-Publishing. All images used are © John New/SLS Montage © SLS 2016.
     
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  15. Corbs

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    I recently stumbled across these GWR 'neverwazzas' on an online auction site...


    Brutish looking 2-10-2T

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    28xx-like 2-10-0

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    A 4-8-0 Cathedral akin to a stretched 'King' rather than the 'Swindon Princess' style 4-6-2

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    A 4-6-2 version of the Cathedral!

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    I don't know what this is but it looks nice (edit - turns out it's real! Dean's Crocodile)

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  16. Matt37401

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    Have to say they all look pretty good.
     
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    I like the model of Dean's no 36 (Crocodile)
     
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    These look very much like the models (7mm?) which featured in Railway Modeller in the early 1990s. I don't remember the modeller's name.
     
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  19. david1984

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    the 28XX 2-10-0 looks rather like a 47XX with an extra pair of wheels.

    The bottom is a Dukedog on steroids ;)
     
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  20. Corbs

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    Corbs, 20. Siječanj 2017.
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