The Royal Wessex 8th April 2017

Paul42 · ‏4 إبريل 2017

Times out http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50747/2017/04/08/advanced
Return http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50501/2017/04/08/advanced

Hauled by 34046 - Load 10 ( eight coaches listed on letter with ticket plus support and kitchen car).
Return diesel hauled as advertised.

free2grice · ‏6 إبريل 2017

The train will drop 34052 (aka 34046) off at Wareham for it's return to Swanage.

Train 5Z47 runs SO, 08/04/17

Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

Wareham 17:21
Worgret Jn 17:26
Swanage 18:11

<BJ>

buzby2 · ‏8 إبريل 2017

34052 (34046), with support coach, uncouples at Wareham and goes to Swanage: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 8/advanced (Arrives Swanage 18:00)
Sunday's tender-first run back to Southall: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 9/advanced (Departs Swanage 11:06)
Followers wanting to see it's progress, between Hinton Admiral and Weymouth, can use the track display: http://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/swml7 which includes the beginning of the Swanage branch.
You can view the progress of Lord Dowding (Braunton) at Corfe Castle using the signal box railcam: http://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/corfe-castle [Saturday scheduled pass around 17:42/17:46 and Sunday around 11:20/11:23]

mrKnowwun · ‏8 إبريل 2017

Just thundered out of the fog at wivelsfield, 6 down, pouring on the power, 57 clinging in terror at the rear

johnnew · ‏8 إبريل 2017

Looking at the t0408c timing sheet I see the Engine + POB are booked on to the Quay Branch stub for servicing at DR 194 rather dropping forward from Jubilee Sidings into the usual metal caged/headshunt area. Will be interesting to see if that's where it actually ends up this afternoon. I think the last steam loco onto the Quay stub was Tangmere for an overnight lay-over back in 2012 (seen as I passed but I didn't have my camera with me that night).

johnnew · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من johnnew: ↑

Looking at the t0408c timing sheet I see the Engine + POB are booked on to the Quay Branch stub for servicing at DR 194 rather dropping forward from Jubilee Sidings into the usual metal caged/headshunt area. Will be interesting to see if that's where it actually ends up this afternoon. I think the last steam loco onto the Quay stub was Tangmere for an overnight lay-over back in 2012 (seen as I passed but I didn't have my camera with me that night).
Click to expand...

Sadly just a variant today of the usual. The difference the whole train moved south for servicing. it wasn't split between WCRC stock and the POB.

73082 · ‏8 إبريل 2017

My effort from this morning

GC Met · ‏8 إبريل 2017

Lord Dowding passes through Moreton then comes to a halt to wait for a service train before gaining access to the single line . The class 57 seems to be doing all the work on departure.

Big Al · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من GC Met: ↑

Lord Dowding passes through Moreton then comes to a halt to wait for a service train before gaining access to the single line . The class 57 seems to be doing all the work on departure.
Click to expand...

I'm sorry to bring the debate back to an old chestnut but this video clip illustrates exactly why you can't trust what will happen at the back of a train when a diesel is involved.
The train was not overloaded. 10 plus a diesel is on the heavy side but not under normal running on fairly level track.
The train was on time and waiting for a path so there was no real urgency to get away.
Despite all the above, the diesel gives the train a shove to get it going.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, because it makes it easier for the crew and possibly they wanted to conserve water (although not allowing the loco to lift the valves might have been a better strategy).

But if you want to experience a steam charter with something approaching authentic performance then clearly these trips are ones to avoid.

JS Rail Videos · ‏8 إبريل 2017

My short offering from this morning, with 34052 passing through Swanwick.

Enjoy!

johnnew · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Big Al: ↑

I'm sorry to bring the debate back to an old chestnut but this video clip illustrates exactly why you can't trust what will happen at the back of a train when a diesel is involved.
The train was not overloaded. 10 plus a diesel is on the heavy side but not under normal running on fairly level track.
The train was on time and waiting for a path so there was no real urgency to get away.
Despite all the above, the diesel gives the train a shove to get it going.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, because it makes it easier for the crew and possibly they wanted to conserve water (although not allowing the loco to lift the valves might have been a better strategy).

But if you want to experience a steam charter with something approaching authentic performance then clearly these trips are ones to avoid.
Click to expand...

Was it waiting for a path or held because it was late? Later arrival than the booked 12:35 into Weymouth suggests it should have gone first and crossed that 444 at Dorchester not been held waiting for it at Moreton. The 57 aiding a get away to catch up on time.

Irrespective the WC and the 57 both looked good in the sun at Weymouth.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rumpole · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Big Al: ↑

I'm sorry to bring the debate back to an old chestnut but this video clip illustrates exactly why you can't trust what will happen at the back of a train when a diesel is involved.
The train was not overloaded. 10 plus a diesel is on the heavy side but not under normal running on fairly level track.
The train was on time and waiting for a path so there was no real urgency to get away.
Despite all the above, the diesel gives the train a shove to get it going.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, because it makes it easier for the crew and possibly they wanted to conserve water (although not allowing the loco to lift the valves might have been a better strategy).

But if you want to experience a steam charter with something approaching authentic performance then clearly these trips are ones to avoid.
Click to expand...

There may have been another reason for the diesel being so heavily involved, such as a need to conserve fuel...

GC Met · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من johnnew: ↑

Was it waiting for a path or held because it was late? Later arrival than the booked 12:35 into Weymouth suggests it should have gone first and crossed that 444 at Dorchester not been held waiting for it at Moreton. The 57 aiding a get away to catch up on time.

Irrespective the WC and the 57 both looked good in the sun at Weymouth.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I think there was a cock up on the timing front as 34046 was due to pass Moreton at 12.16 and the service train 12.18 which is impossible as they would have met each other on the single line , both were on time so 34046 had to wait until the line was clear .

Paul42 · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Rumpole: ↑

There may have been another reason for the diesel being so heavily involved, such as a need to conserve fuel...
Click to expand...

There was no water tanker at Weymouth when we arrived. The run from Moreton onwards was subdued and we kept losing time.

Johnb · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من johnnew: ↑

Was it waiting for a path or held because it was late? Later arrival than the booked 12:35 into Weymouth suggests it should have gone first and crossed that 444 at Dorchester not been held waiting for it at Moreton. The 57 aiding a get away to catch up on time.

Irrespective the WC and the 57 both looked good in the sun at Weymouth.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

How can a 57 look good?

Mogul · ‏8 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Big Al: ↑

I'm sorry to bring the debate back to an old chestnut but this video clip illustrates exactly why you can't trust what will happen at the back of a train when a diesel is involved.
The train was not overloaded. 10 plus a diesel is on the heavy side but not under normal running on fairly level track.
The train was on time and waiting for a path so there was no real urgency to get away.
Despite all the above, the diesel gives the train a shove to get it going.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, because it makes it easier for the crew and possibly they wanted to conserve water (although not allowing the loco to lift the valves might have been a better strategy).

But if you want to experience a steam charter with something approaching authentic performance then clearly these trips are ones to avoid.
Click to expand...

If you want authentic then you should have had a loco change at Bournemouth shed with a freshly coaled and watered loco and crew.

MellishR · ‏9 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Paul42: ↑

There was no water tanker at Weymouth when we arrived. The run from Moreton onwards was subdued and we kept losing time.
Click to expand...

I was on UKRT's The Andover Fist, which passed The Royal Wessex at Northam when it was (presumably) taking water. A Bells and Two Tones tanker then met us in the Eastern Docks to replenish our train's water supplies. If it was the same one that was due to meet The Royal Wessex at Weymouth that might explain a delay on arrival.

Spamcan81 · ‏9 إبريل 2017

مقتبس من Johnb: ↑

How can a 57 look good?
Click to expand...

What's wrong with a Class 57? I must admit I'm surprised that there weren't gauging issues.

A1X · ‏9 إبريل 2017

Saw it at Southampton yesterday, had also hoped to see it at Barnham but good old Southern saw to that one.

https://railwaygalleries.smugmug.com/MainlineSteam/Steam-Tours-in-2017/

alts1985 · ‏9 إبريل 2017

Good day Saturday, Hassocks, Preston Park and Shoreham-by-Sea

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33782281722/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33898845506/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33939627705/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33554616250/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33809581501/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33096378214/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alts1985/33554592560/in/dateposted-public/

تسجيل الدخول

The Royal Wessex 8th April 2017

Paul42 Part of the furniture

free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

buzby2 Well-Known Member

mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

johnnew Member

johnnew Member

73082 Member

GC Met New Member

Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

JS Rail Videos New Member

johnnew Member

Rumpole Part of the furniture

GC Met New Member

Paul42 Part of the furniture

Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

Mogul Member

MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

A1X Well-Known Member

alts1985 Well-Known Member

مشاركة هذه الصفحة

تسجيل الدخول

The Royal Wessex 8th April 2017

Paul42 Part of the furniture

free2grice Part of the furniture Friend

buzby2 Well-Known Member

mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

johnnew Member

johnnew Member

73082 Member

GC Met New Member

Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

JS Rail Videos New Member

johnnew Member

Rumpole Part of the furniture

GC Met New Member

Paul42 Part of the furniture

Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

Mogul Member

MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

A1X Well-Known Member

alts1985 Well-Known Member

مشاركة هذه الصفحة

روابط أخرى