Current and Proposed New-Builds

A Pacific on a Pacer/153 type job!

 

TBH, these days I'd be quite happy were it possible even to get a pacer along that bit of line. (It's leaving Padstow for Wadebridge, having worked down on the Atlantic Coast Express. It had to go back to Wadebridge anyway to go on shed, so it made sense to work one of the carriages back as a local working, rather than make the trip light engine).

Tom

 

One of my books has a photo of a SAR/ZASM GMA Garratt on a Donnybrook school train of just two carriages, apparently once a regular working, for the same reason as the SW Divn Bulleid ones i.e. it's what was there. I think the loco was longer than it's train!

 

I seem to recall seeing a similar photo of a German Kriegslok 2-10-0 and two four-wheeled carriages on a branch line; I think it would have been some time in the 1970s.

Tom

 

I'm not sure GA drawings would be readily available, because originals are relatively common. What you'd get would be more umpteen drawings of individual components. But these are valuable too, especially for those modelling in the larger scales, and they have other uses too. My book project involves creating a lot of profile drawings of GWR locomotives, and I now have an appreciable collection of scale profile drawings of GWR standard parts, so for a new drawing I can start with a good selection of components I already have drawn. These also contribute to the occasional what if I have posted here on occasion.

 

The Pennsy T1 project offer all manner of drawings as part of their fundraising efforts.

Would that be the ones known as "Thunderboxes" due to the racket experienced in these all-steel carriages on the move? I seem to recall a photo of one of a Kriegslok hauling two of the small DB 4w railbus trailers. Remember them? I can only find a photo of the motorised variety:

 

In my case I'm afraid it does matter rather a lot. If there were five new builds on the go taking five years each, then there's a good chance I would see them all working and maybe ride behind some of them. If there were twenty projects taking twenty years each, then my chances of seeing any completed are slim. Hence I would cough up cash for the former but not the latter.

 

Well, in the long term none of us will be here. But if this steam preservation bit is any more than a hobby for those nostalgic for their youth, then we have to consider grand children's grandchildren.

 

I'd definitely take these two as new-build options!

 

If you're going to build a 2-6-4T, please build the 3 cylinder version, so that we've got a very large proportion of the patterns to produce a Southern U1, which I've always wanted to see and understand better. (And a LNER U1 would be nice, too....)

 

Or what about an N1?

 

Either: I've always been quite interested in the SR 3-cylinder Moguls, and why they were built as well as their 2-cylinder cousins.

 

If we are into Southern 2-6-4 tanks, what about the W class?

 

Or the pre-grouping H16, but (thinking of the NYMR's perennial problems with heavy trains), go the whole hog, add that extra coupled axle and have a bash at the G16 4-8-0t.

The only drawback with either, aside from researching, acceptance, fundraising, manpower, possible width issues - nothing that modifying every platform edge wouldn't solve - plus the space and time to built it, would be that @Tobbes wouldn't get his longed for 3-cyl machine out of the exercise!
G16 H16

If that's too "Southern" for Yorkshire sesibilities, how's about a Worsdell X Class (LNER Class T1)

Or, if a Pacific tank is preferred, a Worsdell W1 (LNER Class A6)? All the advantages of that North Eastern pedigree, plus no unsightly outside valve gear and hours of fun with an oilcan. The workshops folks'll just love the challenge!

 

Glorious!

 

The A6s were known locally as Whitby Tanks, so that would be a logical choice.

 

Which was the one that the LNER rebuilt to a Pacific tank from a 4-4-4?

 

The A8. https://www.lner.info/locos/A/a8.php

 

Mr Riddles had considered 4-8-0 for years according to a letter printed in SteamWorld june 99.
I am waiting for two more sources.
I am trying to imagine what could have been made:

https://imgur.com/a/S53hr

With two outside highpressure cylinders 17 inches inside coupling rods i.e. 6feet 3 apart and a 36inch inside low pressure it will be the most efficient british locomotive and balance is more than good enough for 75 mph and can pass narrow loading gauges.
Mr Riddles came from Crewe and migth even have known mr Webb.

 

All utterly fanciful. Riddles did not build a 4-8-0 but Chapelon did, so he did not "beat" him. Chapelon had a technical education that would have been the envy of any British locomotive engineer, especially with regard to thermodynamics. What relevance "knowing" F.W. Webb has to do with this matter is uncertain.

PH