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Discuție în 'Heritage Rolling Stock' creată de PolSteam, 7 Oct 2017.

  1. PolSteam

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    Retired, owner of Wickham type 17a TP57P
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    The killer for every Mk1 and 2's is the jointing mastic!
     
  2. Sawdust

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    Neither is not having a suitable site. It's taken a long time for a favourable neighbouring landowner to emerge.

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    Rubbish, they get plenty of ventilation.

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    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Thought those were confined to the 1/2 compartments?
     
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    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I'd imagine it depends on the tarp?
     
  6. PolSteam

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    I was working on Mk1's in the early 80's, when the average Mk1 was 30 years old, and the Red mastic sealer BR built them with had gone like concrete, and water would happily leak in through roof vents, window frames, gutters, door frames and gangways. In fact EMU's DMU's, and anything with Red mastic, needs pulling apart 30 years ago and replacing. So doing a Mk1 today should be a complete body skin strip, not a patch up. 60 year old coaches need a lot of TLC.
     
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    The SECR saloon was created by removing two first class compartments and the two toilets that served them, so yes it was a toilet! :)
     
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  8. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

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    I recall riding to Cork in what I suspect was a Park Royal with the lavs stripped out and a seat installed.... about 1987
     
  9. paulhitch

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    Did the engine shed(s) arrive quickly?

    PH
     
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    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I'd love to have seen Clayton conversions on the Waterford and Tramore. A bit before even my time though! :)
     
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    Not all at once. The carriage repair shed came before they were extended.

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    The KESR have had condensation problems in their storage shed and there seems to be a ventilation grille along the bottom of most of the side walls. So leaving the lower sides exposed would help this problem but reduce security. I think the solution must be low level grilles and roof vents which encourage air circulation using the wind. I have been told this works on other buildings. Probably not expensive if intalled at time of construction and no running costs.
     
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    61624 Part of the furniture

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    A dutch barn structure with walls to solebar level and open below but with weldmesh grilles below for security seems to me to be the best compromise, maybe with roof vents too.
     
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    My preference would be to have brick/block/stone up to about waist rail height and then to have it double slatted from there up to provide physical security and provide a good airflow around the body.

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    Now that Wareham is underway, undercover accomidation and maintenance facilities for Swanage will follow. The need for these is well understood and plans are being worked out. Now if anyone could spare us a few hundred thousand..........
     
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  16. martin1656

    martin1656 Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    Do you have land already owned by the railway on which to build these new facilities for many Railways land is a premium, and very little spare land available , Southern branch lines, or secondary routes, tended not to have large expanses of sidings and land on which to build.
     
  17. paulhitch

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    Indeed so. Cheque books need to be produced and, indeed, this has been done in at least one case.

    You will know my thoughts in general. Carriage sheds first, extensions (or for that matter express locomotives) very much second.

    Paul H
     
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    but you are overlooking one thing, you have got to have a bit of land where you can build your carriage shed in the first place
     
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  19. paulhitch

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    It was land I had in mind. In some cases it can be a matter of acquiring small parcels in order eventually to assemble an adequate whole. However, you have to make a start. How many places have, despite some being established for decades?

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    At the IOWSR the policy has been to acquire land that is next to the station site at Havenstreet, if that policy had not been adopted we would have no main car park, no overflow carpark, no room to expand the overflow car park if we need to, no C&W workshop, no barn store, a field that we hire out to local horse owners, no Show Field, no café, no main offices, no Train Story, no room to extend Train Story, no PW workshop, office and store, no room to plan for a new Loco works complex.

    If the Railway had not had the foresight to buy land I don't know where we would be.
     
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