West Coast Santa trains 2017

I would imagine for the market this is aimed at, be they the children or the diners, not sitting there cold is a prime consideration. Did 8F's or more specifically does this 8F actually have steam heat?

 

Jeez... here we go again! Why can't people run their trains on the network as they see fit without seemingly causing upset to bystanders who are not customers. I don't see complaints on Nat Pres when the NYMR provide diesel assistance to their trains when it is felt necessary so why do mainline operators get such stick? And I would not call this route undemanding - York - Scarborough is, but not Hellifield - Blackburn.

Peter James

 

Back in the day they didn't have steam heat but I think 48151 has now. I think there are some rules regarding diesel assistance during the leaf fall season until the end of December, it's why the Belmond now runs with a diesel at the back. I don think WC would go to the expense of firing up a loco and paying a driver for the day unless they really had to.

 

Because they are damned when they do and damned when they don't. I share your frustration

 

Footage of 48151 powering past Kettlesbeck and Hoghton this afternoon.

 

Do you know if I am a customer or not??? Don't make accusations you have no foundation for. Could get you in trouble.

In a similar vein, where was the complaint in my post? It was a question. 48151 has taken the Hellifield to Blackburn route in it's stride before.

Seems inside your head is having problems.

 

Nice footage as usual ! No visible evidence of steam heating, so ETH keeps the passengers nice and warm and helps to maintain clear windows

 

Unassisted with a 13 coach train in far from perfect railhead conditions?

 

Another one from Kettlesbeck today.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/iancawthorne/38781830292/

 

Peter some people on here just like to hear the sound of their own keyboard complain and then whinge when WCR don't post on here. Dont worry things never change on Nat Pres

 

Very nice Ian

 

Thanks Henry. Very lucky with the sun, it dipped seconds later!

 

Thanks John , thought for a split second it was you on the opposite side at Bentham but decided it wasn’t!

 

Had other plans for today...so you can bet your life the next two weekends will be dull, grey and very wet!

 

Ralph your biting and thats what they like

 

The 8F at Wennington and Whalley today:

Chris

 

LMS 8F Class 2-8-0 draws into platform 2 at Carnforth to pick up its passengers for the first of the 'Santa Specials' around the circuit. West Coast are to be
congratulated on an excellent day out with the engine performing well all day with Ron Smith on the reins his little helper Martin Soames on the shovel and
Mick Kelly with the diesel. The food and service provided by 'The Gravy Train' was superb and could not be faulted and was suitably washed down with
the odd tincture or two. There were many photters out all around the circuit but the gallery at Hellifield Green was the biggest I've ever seen there seemingly
stood on top of each other!! For all those booked on trips two and three be assured you will not be disappointed and do you know some thing else, I didn't hear
a single whinge about the diesel on the stern. A thoroughly enjoyable day so many thanks West Coast you did a grand job

 

A very good account of the days proceeding’s Shep ! Did Santa give you all you wanted lol

 

Surely you're not suggesting that "Dobbs0054" wasn't a "customer" on this working?