Baldwin "Lyn" new build.

Ted, Sid and Lew. Theyre all very friendly sounding names, a bit like a reunion of old dance band musicians!

 

Not going to repatriate Lew then?

Stu

 

Why- have you found it?

 

Maybe not relevant, but in norwegian "LYN" means the same as lightning in english. I guess the engine runs like greased lightning above the moors.

 

My choice would be Mole, after the River Mole which is a tributary of the River Taw. Whilst not a well known river is is at least in North Devon. I have avoided all the more well known rivers in the east, south and west of the County of Devon many of which are already associated with heritage railways. I also avoided long river names, such as Torridge, as it is not in keeping with the short names favoured by both L&B railways.

 

Looking at Knut's photo against both "Lyn" and the Puffing Billy's NA class 2-6-2t's, that Norwegian loco's boiler does look a tad skinnier, though without a reference dimension, not easy to say for certain. It'd be interesting to compare surviving drawings.

 

Sorry Alan, but MOLE must be ruled out as it is a four letter word. All L&B steam locomotives were and are named after Devon rivers which have a three letter name!

Mike

PS MOLE sounds more suited to a Heritage London Transport Underground loco...

 

In that case there are rivers in Devon, not already used, with three letters but not in North Devon and they are Axe, Sid and Sig: take your pick.

 

Shhhhh!

 

OK. Axe and Sid are names already in use on the L&B. Sig, I'd never heard of until now. It has an intriguing Norse ring to it.

 

Alan

Sorry to disappoint you once again! As you will see from these two pages on the L&B website http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/railway/rolling-stock/axe and http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/page/locomotives the rivers AXE and SID have both had L&B locos named after them.

The L&B website (which you will find at http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/ ) has absolutely masses of information in its pages. Something to explore during the long winter evenings!

Mike

 

But Sid has gone, several years ago, to Sweden and been renamed. Thus the name is free again.

Some years back someone produced a list of 3 letter river names in Devon (on the yahoo group I think, rather than on Nat Pres). There were a large number of them.

 

Many of the so called rivers in Devon are truthfully no more than streams which you can step across. I would have thought a more significant waterway would be one that was to be chosen. And as I mentioned in an earlier post which maybe was not read - I limited choices to North Devon.

 

Found it:

Keith

 

Double-headed Lyd and Lud, or maybe Ted and Red (painted indian red of course), or even Ben and Den with Lee, Ley and Lew

 

Not Den Ted or Ben Ted, I hope, nor Lee Red. Ben Bow has a nautical ring, however.

 

Suit those marine fireboxes then!

 

This suggestion that the MW locos weren't built for the L&B, but we're rejects from elsewhere: is it just supposition, or is there any evidence to suggest it?
I rather struggle to see what 2' gauge line they were built for if not the L&B. Gwalior?
Are the MW records missing?

 

I've heard it discussed, never heard of it being the truth.

 

The understanding is this at the time these locos where being built Manning Wardle where engaged with building a number of locos for the Indian Bengal Nagpur Railway which at the time was designed to be 2ft gauge, however halfway through the contract the railway builders decided to build the railway to 2ft 6in gauge.

It was realised that the 2-6-2T could not be re gauged to 2ft 6in but it was possible that the 0-6-2 Tender locos could and where done so these being works No 1401 to 1404 this left a hole in the order which where later filled by three more 0-6-2 Tender locos works no 1474 to 1476 this being about a year later.

The 3 x 2-6-2T's where in effect finish in 1898 but as a cancelled order had no where to go, Manning Wardles had already been paid for the locos to a point, but the gauge conversion left them with three locos they could not sell.

So when the L&BR came and asked about them Manning Wardle where only to happy to sell them at cost, when the L&BR asked if they could provide a fourth member of the class Manning Wardles could not do so for at least a year due to back orders and the new orders from Indian and the price also double for the fourth member of the class.

While this does not cross the t's and dot the I's the dates of the dispatch for the 0-6-2 are 28th November 1898 to 6th December 1898, when you compare the L&BR 2-6-2T they where ready for dispatch on 11th November 1897, the reason for this is because they where ready first and where more advanced in the build.

If this does not quiet settle it for you, then how about this the 3 replacement 0-6-2 locos where ready from 31st of May 1900. So there is the story as it is understood at present, but there is always something else that could come up and confirm all of this.

Check the following link out for more details about the Indian Railways https://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Bengal-Nagpur_Railway

hope this helps

regards

Colin