If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

You have a time machine and you can go back to the 50s/60s and save one Engine. Which would it be ?

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door toplight, 21 dec 2017.

  1. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Lid geworden:
    16 apr 2009
    Berichten:
    9.061
    Leuk Bevonden:
    5.964
    The Douglas Self site suggests that the main reason for the lack of success of the later version with mechanical transmission "was simply that turbines are only efficient at or near one design speed. This is fine in power-stations, but not in a locomotive where mechanically-coupled turbines have to run at very variable speeds." That problem would be much less with electric transmission, so it seems strange that the earlier version, which had electric transmission, was rebuilt into the mechanical transmission version.
     
  2. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Lid geworden:
    6 apr 2015
    Berichten:
    9.851
    Leuk Bevonden:
    8.028
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Locatie:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Bristol Queen or Manxman anyone??

    upload_2018-1-11_11-27-21.jpeg [​IMG] upload_2018-1-11_11-29-54.jpeg
     
    andrewshimmin vindt dit leuk.
  3. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    29 mei 2006
    Berichten:
    4.354
    Leuk Bevonden:
    5.870
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    N.Ireland
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  4. LesterBrown

    LesterBrown Member

    Lid geworden:
    20 jan 2009
    Berichten:
    995
    Leuk Bevonden:
    761
    Locatie:
    Devon
    Did Bulleid see this when he was younger?
     
  5. LesterBrown

    LesterBrown Member

    Lid geworden:
    20 jan 2009
    Berichten:
    995
    Leuk Bevonden:
    761
    Locatie:
    Devon
    The Beyer-Ljungstrom locomotive seems to have been the most successful British condensing turbine loco. But maintenance (and construction) costs were still excessive and it didn't manage any better economy than a conventional locomotive.
    [[​IMG]
     
    Last edited: 11 jan 2018
  6. Cartman

    Cartman Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    14 dec 2015
    Berichten:
    2.920
    Leuk Bevonden:
    2.242
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Van driver
    Locatie:
    Cheshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The only one of these various experimental designs which seemed to work was the turbomotive and that wasn’t enough of an improvement to be worth the hassle
     
  7. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    18 sep 2012
    Berichten:
    2.439
    Leuk Bevonden:
    855
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired
    Locatie:
    Wessex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I thought that as well, from the middle to the rear it looks like Bulleids turf burner in Ireland.
     
  8. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

    Lid geworden:
    18 sep 2012
    Berichten:
    2.439
    Leuk Bevonden:
    855
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Retired
    Locatie:
    Wessex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Sorry to go off thread... Sally B.jpg
     
    Spinner, andrewshimmin, 2392 en 1 andere persoon vinden dit leuk.
  9. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Lid geworden:
    6 apr 2015
    Berichten:
    9.851
    Leuk Bevonden:
    8.028
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Locatie:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Pity it wasnt tooled up and airborne over that incident that @The Green Howards reported with an Audi.....................
     
    nine elms fan vindt dit leuk.
  10. Bill Drewett

    Bill Drewett Member

    Lid geworden:
    8 dec 2015
    Berichten:
    277
    Leuk Bevonden:
    845
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    Bristol
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm picturing something like this 1987 advert...

     
    Spinner en johnofwessex vinden dit leuk.
  11. LesterBrown

    LesterBrown Member

    Lid geworden:
    20 jan 2009
    Berichten:
    995
    Leuk Bevonden:
    761
    Locatie:
    Devon
    Do you mean middle to the front, that photo is a rear 3/4 view, it ran condenser leading.

    I can't work out any way the driver can see in front, or behind, without leaning out of a cab side window.
     
  12. clinker

    clinker Member

    Lid geworden:
    8 okt 2016
    Berichten:
    636
    Leuk Bevonden:
    381
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    romford
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer


    I've been told that the Footballers in particular suffered from an amount of 'Partisanship' in the respect that. for example 'Arsenal' recieved far less care and attention at Stratford that 'West Ham United' did. Also been told by an ex Stratford fireman that B17's were top heavy leading to their rough riding. Bill Harvey and Kim Malyon did a lot of work on the rear axleboxes and springs at Ipswich in an attempt to improve matters.
     
  13. 61648

    61648 Member

    Lid geworden:
    1 nov 2015
    Berichten:
    664
    Leuk Bevonden:
    264
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Locatie:
    Former sub-shed of 30D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Whilst I can understand that point, I think the best photo I can recall seeing of a clean B17 on shed at Stratford was of Arsenal, IIRC, the photo is published in one of John D Mann's excellent East Anglian series of books published in the early 1990's.

    For fairly obvious reasons it is one of my favourite photos of a B17
     
  14. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Lid geworden:
    6 apr 2015
    Berichten:
    9.851
    Leuk Bevonden:
    8.028
    Geslacht:
    Man
    Beroep:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Locatie:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Thinking about it, what about bringing one of the ex LMS Jackshaft Drive shunters back from Italy?

    A true pioneer which we dont have any examples of in the UK
     

Deel Deze Pagina