If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Severn Valley - New Station

Dieses Thema im Forum 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' wurde von David R gestartet, 11 April 2018.

  1. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    30 Juli 2013
    Beiträge:
    1.020
    Zustimmungen:
    1.391
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm intrigued by the reference to a new station on the Severn Valley Railway to serve West Midlands Safari Park and to be served by West Midlands Trains:

    https://www.expressandstar.com/news...s-to-merry-hill-and-west-midland-safari-park/

    As the Safari Park is "drive through in your car" how on earth would a railway station be of any benefit to anyone - or am I missing something. A few days ago and I'd have said it was an April Fool!.

    David R
     
    std tank und flying scotsman123 gefällt dies.
  2. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    25 August 2007
    Beiträge:
    35.923
    Zustimmungen:
    22.444
    Beruf:
    Training moles
    Ort:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I’d imagine a stroll around the lion enclosure would be an invigorating experience. :)
     
  3. JayDee

    JayDee Member

    Registriert seit:
    15 Dezember 2017
    Beiträge:
    354
    Zustimmungen:
    272
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Swadlincote
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    They're going into the outdoor fitness business. If you can outrun the lions on a starvation day you get your entry fee back.
     
  4. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    30 Juli 2013
    Beiträge:
    1.020
    Zustimmungen:
    1.391
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Roaringly good entertainment. No doubt it's best to "Prey" before entering :)

    David R
     
  5. std tank

    std tank Part of the furniture

    Registriert seit:
    20 September 2005
    Beiträge:
    3.941
    Zustimmungen:
    1.076
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Beruf:
    Retired
    Ort:
    Liverpool
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sounds like the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
     
    David R gefällt dies.
  6. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    30 Juli 2013
    Beiträge:
    1.020
    Zustimmungen:
    1.391
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Otherwise it's a one way ticket up Mane St. [​IMG]They get worse from here!

    David R
     
  7. David R

    David R Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    30 Juli 2013
    Beiträge:
    1.020
    Zustimmungen:
    1.391
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Have you heard about the new craze for Park Runs

    David R
     
    JayDee gefällt dies.
  8. JayDee

    JayDee Member

    Registriert seit:
    15 Dezember 2017
    Beiträge:
    354
    Zustimmungen:
    272
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Swadlincote
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    What do you mean taken over?
     
    David R gefällt dies.
  9. D1039

    D1039 Guest

    WMT raised the subject last September when it was announced they would take over from the old franchisee, though a station there was mooted long before that. Here's a link to a 2011 article https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-to-link-west-midland-safari-155081 and one from 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-24026487

    The SVR has confirmed to its members that discussions have taken place with the TOC, but only to explore possibilities. They said no decision will be taken in isolation, and would require consultation prior to any decision being taken.

    Patrick
     
    Forestpines, JayDee und David R gefällt dies.
  10. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    8 Juni 2014
    Beiträge:
    15.552
    Zustimmungen:
    11.961
    Ort:
    Wnxx
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I believe that going back to the 1970's there was a plan to open a halt even then.
     
  11. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member Friend

    Registriert seit:
    7 Mai 2012
    Beiträge:
    1.476
    Zustimmungen:
    1.929
    Ort:
    Stourbridge
    A rather more oddball scheme than a halt. From SVR News in Summer 1974 "It is interesting to note that the Station at Bewdley will shortly be available for the use of visitors to the West Midland Safari Park by means of a footbridge recovered from the former Burlish Halt, to be erected on the island platform. It is hoped that by this means, and the projected terminus and interchange at Kidderminster*, visitors to the Railway and to the Park will be able to park their cars in comfort at Kidderminster (or Bridgnorth or Highley) and thus avoid, or even prevent, the current traffic jams on the Kidderminster-Bewdley road."

    *Which didn't open for another 10 years.
     
  12. Andy Williams

    Andy Williams Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    23 April 2010
    Beiträge:
    1.042
    Zustimmungen:
    1.072
    Beruf:
    Design Engineer
    Ort:
    Shropshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Hopefully this proposal will 'wither on the vine' like its predecessors. Whilst it may benefit the Safari Park and West Midlands Trains there is little if anything to be gained by the SVR, who would incur considerable expense in enabling these proposed services to operate without prejudicing their existing heritage operation.
     
    Kje7812, Johnb und oddsocks gefällt dies.
  13. threelinkdave

    threelinkdave Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    1 August 2013
    Beiträge:
    2.065
    Zustimmungen:
    1.240
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Beruf:
    Retired
    Ort:
    Stratford-upon-Avon or in a brake KD to BH
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The main problems with these proposals is line ocupation on busy days and manning Kidderminster Town signal box. I doubt we could find sufficient volunteers for a regular comercial service. There is a likelyhood that paid staff may be required which would eat into any financial advantage.

    There woul also be route knowledge training so main line crews could sign for Bewdley - Kidder
     
  14. mikechant

    mikechant Member

    Registriert seit:
    24 Oktober 2012
    Beiträge:
    228
    Zustimmungen:
    245
    I understand that at least some safari parks offer bus tours as well as car access. If you think about, even ignoring people who might arrive via public transport, quite a few car drivers might prefer to go round on a bus rather than have bits torn off their car in the monkey enclosure.
     
    RalphW gefällt dies.
  15. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    8 Juni 2014
    Beiträge:
    15.552
    Zustimmungen:
    11.961
    Ort:
    Wnxx
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    There is no monkey enclosure. Giraffes however...
     
  16. Charles Parry

    Charles Parry Member

    Registriert seit:
    2 August 2013
    Beiträge:
    343
    Zustimmungen:
    315
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Yes you're right. West Midlands Safari Park currently offers guided minibus tours for 6 quid extra. More interesting and you don't risk damaging your car. The park also has exhibits you walk around as well, and a small theme park too. So the idea of connecting by rail isn't as daft as some people here might think.

    As to if it viable... that section of the line is congested, particularly on gala days, although it doesn't use tokens but acceptance lever so trains can be fired through quite quickly, especially if line upgrades allowed for a higher speed limit.

    I think surely a beefy bus service from Kidder would be a better option, perhaps going on to Bewdley for people who want to do a little train trip and a trip to the safari park. At least that might help indicate if the demand was there.
     
  17. Andy Williams

    Andy Williams Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    23 April 2010
    Beiträge:
    1.042
    Zustimmungen:
    1.072
    Beruf:
    Design Engineer
    Ort:
    Shropshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The section would be limited to 4 trains per hour if an intermediate station stop was introduced, i.e. 2 trains in each direction per hour. It is not just gala days when that section is at full capacity.

    Any thoughts of an increase in line speed for passenger trains would mean that the Kidderminster-Bewdley section of line would cease to be a light railway, and would thus loose the current derogations from ROGS associated with 25 MPH running. I am sure that no-one at the SVR would wish for that.
     
    gwalkeriow gefällt dies.
  18. Chris86

    Chris86 Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    31 Oktober 2011
    Beiträge:
    1.613
    Zustimmungen:
    1.847
    Beruf:
    Safety, technical and vehicle trainer
    Ort:
    South Yorkshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Thats a relief, I had images of locos having all their brass/fire irons stolen by the animals......... ;-)
     
    Bluenosejohn gefällt dies.
  19. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

    Registriert seit:
    29 April 2006
    Beiträge:
    3.080
    Zustimmungen:
    1.291
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Beruf:
    Very comfortably early retired
    Ort:
    1029
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Where does those minibus tours start/finish currently?
     
  20. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Registriert seit:
    24 Juli 2008
    Beiträge:
    7.833
    Zustimmungen:
    6.080
    The main entrance.
     

Die Seite empfehlen