If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

The genie in the railway lamp

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Monkey Magic, 18. Srpanj 2018..

  1. Eightpot

    Eightpot Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Pridružen(a):
    10. Kolovoz 2006.
    Poruka:
    8,340
    Lajkova:
    2,506
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Engineer Emeritus
    Grad:
    Aylesbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Oh that the Genie could have influenced the appropriate 'high-ups' at the time of grouping in 1923 to have adopted the air brake as standard rather than vacuum system, instead of BR having to do it in the mid-1960s.
     
    andrewshimmin, ross, paulhitch i 2 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  2. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    18. Svibanj 2017.
    Poruka:
    1,002
    Lajkova:
    2,477
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Oh its quite factual about Adolf's dangly bits. Cryptorchidism affecting his starboard goolie is mentioned in the notes after his arrest for the failed "beer hall putsch" in 1923. It was widely claimed that the injury was from shrapnel in the Great War. In the 30's, an old schoolmate claimed the poor chap lost one after getting butted by a goat-and was executed for attempting to discredit the fuhrer.

    The part your grannie played in all this eludes me
     
  3. Eightpot

    Eightpot Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Pridružen(a):
    10. Kolovoz 2006.
    Poruka:
    8,340
    Lajkova:
    2,506
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Engineer Emeritus
    Grad:
    Aylesbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    So it appears that the song sung to the music of Colonel Bogey does have some basis in fact then.......
     
  4. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    6. Siječanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    3,498
    Lajkova:
    6,845
    Grad:
    Here, there, everywhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You need to cite your sources on this one, hopefully your granny wasn’t an eye witness. I am happy for ‘Hitler’s testicles’ to be in someone else’s internet search history rather than mine.
     
    Last edited: 22. Srpanj 2018.
  5. paulhitch

    paulhitch Guest

    Except for the bit about Goebbels.

    PH
     
    andrewshimmin se sviđa ovo.
  6. Smokestack Lightning

    Smokestack Lightning Member

    Pridružen(a):
    14. Listopad 2013.
    Poruka:
    262
    Lajkova:
    91
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    While we are well off topic, I remember reading stories of two different near misses Hitler had in car accidents. Neither were responsible for the missing appendage as far as I am aware.

    Furthermore, there is an account of a shooting party in 1913 in England. During the shoot one of the gun loaders stumbled, and both barrels were discharged, narrowly missing the guest of honour. The thing is, that guest was Archduke Franz Ferdinand, who was assassinated the following year in an event which is widely accepted as having triggered the start of WW1. If he had died in 1913 would the war have been delayed or even averted?

    Three near misses which, had the outcomes been different, might have changed the course of history. But we will never know.

    Dave
     
  7. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

    Pridružen(a):
    8. Ožujak 2017.
    Poruka:
    12,172
    Lajkova:
    11,496
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Retired
    Grad:
    Brighton&Hove
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Mr Fry mentioned the Austrian Corporal's monorchism (yep .... there's a flash word for it!) during an episode of QI some time ago, alleging it was more the product of WWI shrapnel than congenital (sorry, couldn't resist!).

    How the hell did we end up talking about Schicklgruber's knacker(s) anyway? :Wideyed:
     
    61648 se sviđa ovo.
  8. Kylchap

    Kylchap Member

    Pridružen(a):
    15. Prosinac 2015.
    Poruka:
    492
    Lajkova:
    935
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    East Anglia
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Very much in keeping with the b*ll*cks with which we frequently get involved.
     
    Forestpines, 61648, 35B i 3 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  9. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

    Pridružen(a):
    8. Ožujak 2017.
    Poruka:
    12,172
    Lajkova:
    11,496
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Retired
    Grad:
    Brighton&Hove
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Fair point!
     
    61648 se sviđa ovo.
  10. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Pridružen(a):
    16. Travanj 2009.
    Poruka:
    8,912
    Lajkova:
    5,849
    There are so many past events that we could wish the genie to change, and so many things that we could wish to have changed today, that it's hard to choose. But how about either of these changes to the past?

    During the first few months of running Duke Of Gloucester, BR realised that something was seriously awry. Instead of shrugging their corporate shoulders they then made a thorough investigation, put the faults right, were delighted with the improved performance and built another dozen or so, all of which eventually reached the care of Dai Woodham.

    Nearer home for me, the main line platforms at Willesden Junction remained open.
     
  11. I think this is only about the 785th time in the history of NatPres, so there are a few hundred more rounds of pointless wishing to go yet before people finally tire of it :)
     
    paulhitch and gwalkeriow like this.
  12. The Black Hat

    The Black Hat Member

    Pridružen(a):
    7. Listopad 2010.
    Poruka:
    860
    Lajkova:
    399
    Interesi:
    Defender of the Faith
    Grad:
    51F
    If I met the genie I would be asking for the cash to build up a profitable steam maintenance company that works in partnership with other companies in the industry such as WCRC and Ian Riley Co. Call it the New North Eastern Railway and set about working on contracts for overhaul, while supporting some of the preservation groups. Then with such a venture profitable, a start would be made on new builds for B16/3 and L4 (updated L1).
     
  13. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Pridružen(a):
    18. Lipanj 2011.
    Poruka:
    28,733
    Lajkova:
    28,660
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Going back to the OP, I’d have had the Underground (and Metropolitan, for the pedants) as part of the Grouping, not kept separate.

    For the wider railways, it would have allowed more understanding of how to make inner suburban rapid transit work; for the Met in particular, it might have led to some interesting interactions. Perhaps even Brill surviving till the War.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    Wenlock se sviđa ovo.
  14. gwralatea

    gwralatea Member

    Pridružen(a):
    31. Prosinac 2014.
    Poruka:
    511
    Lajkova:
    1,006
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    tossing up between a Clan and the GCR back from the dead.

    On second thoughts, I'll go for the GCR - the Clan will be dealt with by my Euromillions win.
     
  15. simon

    simon Resident of Nat Pres

    Pridružen(a):
    26. Lipanj 2006.
    Poruka:
    11,872
    Lajkova:
    5,562
    Something that could plausibly have happened and would have been of benefit would have been for a different mix of locos to have ended up in Barry more on line with the requirements of preserved railways than perhaps some locos are and filling some of the gaps.
     
    MuzTrem and johnofwessex like this.
  16. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

    Pridružen(a):
    8. Ožujak 2017.
    Poruka:
    12,172
    Lajkova:
    11,496
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Retired
    Grad:
    Brighton&Hove
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    As much as any of t'other scrappies doing a Dai Woodham, with umpteen thousand freight vehicles to get through before cutting any locos? If only ..... :(
     
  17. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    6. Siječanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    3,498
    Lajkova:
    6,845
    Grad:
    Here, there, everywhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Toss of a coin. Cohen's or Cashmore's who gets the thousands of wagons to scrap first?
     
  18. Hermod

    Hermod Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    6. Svibanj 2017.
    Poruka:
    1,109
    Lajkova:
    317
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    Klitmoeller,Denmark
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Why the B16/3?
     
  19. Muzza

    Muzza New Member

    Pridružen(a):
    16. Veljača 2006.
    Poruka:
    180
    Lajkova:
    185
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    Mareeba, Qld, Australia
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If I met the genie, I would thank him for all the magic he has worked since the 1960s to give us what we have today.

    Much of what the preservationists (and new builders) have achieved in that time, seemed like fantasy back then.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    MuzTrem, Copper-capped, 30854 i 3 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  20. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Pridružen(a):
    8. Ožujak 2008.
    Poruka:
    27,798
    Lajkova:
    64,475
    Grad:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Lots of people seem to be taking a historical view of the genie's powers: what do we wish had been saved. But the genie said "you can wish for any project to be completed, any loco, carriage or truck to be built or restored, any rule that prevents anything from running to be changed, any hinderance that stops a project to be removed (be that physical, financial, personal)".

    So my wish is for the continued health of the network of small and medium suppliers on which running heritage railways survive. Whether that is continued supplies of lump coal, or lubricants, or bespoke pattern making and casting, or the continued availability of tyres in all sizes, or a myriad other supplies and services, we are dependent on a wide economic infrastructure. No coal, or no tyres = no railways. So my wish is for the genie to keep a benevolent eye on that ecosystem.

    Tom
     

Podijelite ovu stranicu