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Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od Bulleid Pacific, 1. Svibanj 2018..

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  1. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

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    Times are now online.

    Outward: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U55475/2018/09/23/advanced
    Return: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U55474/2018/09/23/advanced

    James
     
    steamvideosnet, 19. Rujan 2018.
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  2. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

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    A feeling of mixed emotions on this one. Would have loved the track, but having spent a fair chunk of my life living in the area, I'm not sure Bynea is the best compromise in the bag. So, glad I'm off to the States instead. Give my regards to whatever flakes of metal remain from 34065, which I understand was scrapped at Bird's.
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 19. Rujan 2018.
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  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Well I think that these times demonstrate what I have been saying all along about this trip. It's a total of nine and a quarter hours to do the line each way and that EXCLUDES however long it would take to turn and service the loco and train in a hurry plus of course the extra hour and a half it would have taken to get from Bynea to Carmarthen and back. OK, there is a pathing delay but given that the train is the first one out of BNS, had the charter been able to go to Carmarthen I could see it competing with the last train through BNS on the way back some time after 0130!

    But I repeat that this compromise is an excellent one and at least it's better than two other ideas that were never going to happen, and didn't. Inverness to Thurso and back in a day with steam each way and a Scot over the West Highland.
     
    Big Al, 19. Rujan 2018.
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  4. CLN_WVR

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    I know a lot don't do Facebook, but an image posted a couple of hours ago appears to show that 45231 was moving around the yard under her own steam today
     
    CLN_WVR, 19. Rujan 2018.
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  5. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

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    Good news to a certain degree, now it all comes down to the test runs !
     
    LMarsh1987, 19. Rujan 2018.
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    garth manor Well-Known Member

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    Train returns back from the junction through Bynea to Pontardulais to turn via Grovesend and thence back through Bynea to the junction to water, presumably lead by the trailing diesel on these legs.
     
    garth manor, 19. Rujan 2018.
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  7. NathanP

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    Trailing diesel? I thought the diesel was coming off at Shrewsbury and waiting for us there. The whole point of this trip, and the reason why it was re-scheduled from July, was that it's supposed to be un-assisted steam along the Central Wales line.
     
    NathanP, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  8. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I did wonder how this turning movement would be achieved, but as Wayne has told us before DBC do not do trailing diesels under power so is the Black 5 dragging a diesel all the way from & to Shrewsbury under this theory? That is about the weight of 3 Mk1's I think.
     
    Gladiator 5076, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  9. rule55

    rule55 Member

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    Are you sure about that? I would expect the turning move from Llandeilo Jct via Morlais and Hendy to be for the locomotive only. As far as I'm aware there is no trailing diesel unless the plan has changed in the last few days.
     
    rule55, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  10. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

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    If they still use it surely DB will send a diesel down from Margam Yard.
     
    1020 Shireman, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  11. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

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    The first Cardiff-Manchester doesn't get to Craven Arms before the Mountaineer leaves. ATW implied it would link in with the train. So even South Wales/Hereford folk will have to drive to Shrewsbury or do an overnighter.
     
    1020 Shireman, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  12. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Diesel on the rear seems improbable because the steam loco is vac brake only and DBC locos are air brake only. Unless an LSL 47 is dual braked and used by DBC?
     
    26D_M, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  13. acorb

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    I suspect some folk at DBC would be having a real chuckle at this thread if they read it!
     
    acorb, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  14. 26D_M

    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Maybe, but speculation is only the product of absent information which isn't all that funny, is it?
     
    26D_M, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  15. jsm8b

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    jsm8b, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  16. LMarsh1987

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    There should be no diesel attached t
    There's also paths in place for tomorrow.
     
    LMarsh1987, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  17. gwr4090

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    ECS probably stabled at Llandeilo Junction Yd. Loco only back to Pontardulais to turn ?
     
    gwr4090, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  18. gwr4090

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    DBC can and do operate vacuum braked trains, as long as there is a vac brake diesel available nearby for rescue. We may well see more vac braked working by DBC in the future. Vac braking is still on their safety case.
     
    gwr4090, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  19. 26D_M

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    Indeed, the train on Sunday is vac braked. The point I was raising is that the DBC fleet is exclusively air braked so access to a vac fitted diesel has presumably been arranged from a third party? Perhaps VTs 47, if LSLs aren't dual fitted?
     
    26D_M, 20. Rujan 2018.
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  20. 1020 Shireman

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    Looking at the track layout they will surely go directly to Llandeilo sidings from Binea; detach the loco and send it for turning light engine. No need for s diesel to be involved. Had this confirmed by a man who really does know.
     
    Last edited: 20. Rujan 2018.
    1020 Shireman, 20. Rujan 2018.
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