West Somerset Railway General Discussion

No just realistic. Hopefully all will be ok, but the deal isn’t done until the cash is handed over.

 

The PLC Chairman has said that the railway has received an offer of £100 K for this engine and, as it is a useful size engine for the railway he doesn't want it to be sold off the railway as it would be most likely gone for good and, that is the reason he has given the WSR based group who had been set up over this engine, first refusal to acquire this engine as long as they get the money to pay for it by the end of Jan. If another group put in another higher offer and the Chairman told the 4110 group they had to find £125 K for this engine I think his days as been Chairman would be numbered.

Most likely some of the people who have pledged already would make up the difference as, some of the pledge's have been increased by 25% to make sure enough money was raised by early Jan so, a good chance they will do the same again if there was a shortfall at the end.

 

Hopefully those expressing opinions on the subject of 4110 have all made their meaningful pledges?

 

Thanks. Why do you call the bunker sides above the flare a "fender"?

 

I think I was answering a question about where income from contract engineering work could go. Not what to do with proceeds of fire sales.

 

That seems to be the term used here:

http://www.gwr.org.uk/no-tenders.html

Given the author of that piece (well known on this forum), I’d take the nomenclature as having a solid basis in contemporary documentation. (Not something I’d come across in Southern circles though, where the same feature is generally called a “rave”).

Tom

 

My understanding, as well, Tom, a rave being an old term for a vertical sidepiece on a wagon. However, you are talking about the GWR and they rarely conformed.

 

In this part of the world a "rave" is something we used to go to when we all had long hair.

I can't vouch for the origin of the term "fender" but have heard it used many times to describe the coal space upright plate work on a GW tender. Before tenders had fenders they had coal rails and there are still examples around where the rails were replaced by fenders. The give away is the rivet pattern where the rails/fenders were attached to the upright supports.

 

You can't call it a fender unless you are referring to an N7 on the jazz service, or if you are describing something with great precision.

 

Thanks. I see the term is also used in Part 12 of Locos of the GWR, again without comment as to its origin.

Would that be something in sunburst livery?

 

Natural ash for me please.

 

Is the stock delivery road at BL part of the original railway

 

Good question. I don't think so, Anthony. But it might lie on the one-time goods line to the former Government 'buffer store' (foods and other stuff ready for a civil emergency) alongside the goods yard. I'll check out some map data.

EDIT: Nope. The 'store' siding left the former coal yard siding and then across the yard towards the SW corner of the former store, and then along its western side. The far (north) end of the present 'delivery road' just about coincides with the lost 'store' siding.

Steve

 

Begs the question; is the person who forms the tender fender a tender fender bender?

 

Because that is what the Great Western called them, not the silly 'raves' nonsense perpetrated by the bard of Irwell Press.
Regards
Bob

 

Bob, quite correct.

One of the definitions of the word fender is "a metal guard around a fire to stop the coals falling out".

Quite logical really!

Andy.

 

Was it normal to have the fire in the tender on the GWR then?

(What one learns about Swindon practice gets stranger by the day!)

Tom

 

And if he subsequently repairs it would that make him a tender fender mender?

 

My Grandad would have called those raised sides “greedy boards”!