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West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Rasprava u 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' pokrenuta od gwr4090, 15. Studeni 2007..

  1. weltrol

    weltrol Part of the furniture Friend

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    Is it still a Hoover if it is 'Air Only'?
     
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  2. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

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    Yes. Because they were brought to the UK by the Pullman Car Company who used to reform their sets regularly. Main line companies ran fixed sets much more commonly.

    The much less easy to use 'British Standard Gangway' preceded them in the UK. These are now most commonly seen on first generation DMU's and have to be clipped and pinned together.

    When the BR Mk1 coach was designed, buckeye couplings and Pullman gangways represented best practice and so they were included.

    Robin
     
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  3. February's Steam Beano contains a few nuggets of information, if it is to be believed. Article quotes JJP throughout.

    - 44422 25-year 'restore and run' agreement terminated, locomotive to leave WSR.

    - 6695 mooted 25-year agreement now 'on hold'.

    - 4110 four bidders competing, including GWR 4110 Ltd and WSRA. Others unspecified.

    - Mk1 repaint program to include one rake of service coaches to be outshopped in BR maroon.

    And of real concern:

    - cash-flow situation much worse than previously understood.
     
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  4. twr12

    twr12 Well-Known Member

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    SR & LNER adopted buckeye couplings and Pullman gangways early on. Certainly Maunsell & Gresley era stock onwards.

    LMS & GWR stuck with screw couplings and “British Standard” gangways until Mark 1s.
     
  5. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Part of the furniture

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    Just to be certain so I can order copy from my newsagent this is Stem Railway? TIA
     
  6. oddsocks

    oddsocks Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Steam Railway issue No. 489. (Page 18-19)
     
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  7. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

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    It seems to come from an interview with the plc Chairman so presumably factual.
     
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  8. 45076

    45076 Member

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    Pity the Beano cannot interview him more often. That would help to stop the constant speculation.
     
  9. Jim O'Brien

    Jim O'Brien New Member

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    Or even 'Brake Vans'?
     
  10. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    I chose my spelling with care :)

    Tom
     
  11. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman Part of the furniture

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    Many thanks.
     
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  12. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    What I can't really understand is why the DMU's were built with screw couplings and British Standard Gangways, given the advantages of the Pullman gangway and Buckeye. Was it cost thing?
     
  13. Steve B

    Steve B Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing that it was, and not much in the way of a downside operationally given that they wouldn't be split that often.

    Steve B
     
  14. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    Communication and ownership are key in times like these through all channels and to all stakeholders .
     
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  15. twr12

    twr12 Well-Known Member

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    Because everyone knew how rubbish DMU are, so gave them rubbish gangways!
     
  16. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    The GWR used them. Draw your own conclusions. Mind you, so did the LMS.;)
     
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  17. Bayard

    Bayard Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me if I've missed it, but I would be interested to know why and I can't see that anyone has given an answer.
     
  18. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

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    Ditto Vac brakes - wasnt it something to do with being able to haul a trailing load?
     
  19. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

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    It was answered somewhere in the mire of this thread, there was a road transporter in the area anyway and so it was decided that this would be easier than making it fit for a 10 mile rail trip part dismantled.
     
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  20. granmaree

    granmaree Member

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    Plus p'way had possession of the line I think for maintenance?
     
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