If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Churnet Valley Railway General Discussion

Rasprava u 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' pokrenuta od Sheff, 6. Prosinac 2013..

  1. staffordian

    staffordian Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    27. Ožujak 2012.
    Poruka:
    1,524
    Lajkova:
    2,172
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Retired
    Grad:
    The Potteries
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'd say they are more adamant than that. They insist their land must be removed from the application, also that no works interfere or intrude on their land and they have concerns with the drainage proposals. No suggestion they might sell the land or give any permissions.

    Plenty of other potential obstacles and difficulties mentioned too.
     
    lil Bear, MattA, jnc i 1 drugoj osobi se sviđa ovo.
  2. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    12. Listopad 2018.
    Poruka:
    1,539
    Lajkova:
    649
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    W yorkshire 56f
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Ile inquire about if the C.V.R. are going to protest this proposal of the signing a petition form is going to happen, at the C.V.R. Gala. Who owns the trackbed past leek brook jct N.R. Or C.V.R.?
     
  3. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    12. Listopad 2018.
    Poruka:
    1,539
    Lajkova:
    649
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    W yorkshire 56f
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    What the councils round the area where the mothballed stoke to leek brook line runs through is get local people to have a vote on who wants to see the railway reopened 4 public service trains to leek again or if people would prefer the land be built on with houses not careing about their heritage and then see where they stand on this matter
     
  4. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    29. Svibanj 2006.
    Poruka:
    4,306
    Lajkova:
    5,735
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    N.Ireland
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I don't think anyone would be organising a petition at this stage. If you feel strongly about it, just write/email the council and object to the planning application.

    Keith
     
    lil Bear, jnc, Greenway i 1 drugoj osobi se sviđa ovo.
  5. mikechant

    mikechant Member

    Pridružen(a):
    24. Listopad 2012.
    Poruka:
    225
    Lajkova:
    243
    I would imagine that NR's objections should be enough to put a stop to this; they'll surely find it easier to resubmit a proposal with no railway encroachment than to fight NR.
     
    lil Bear se sviđa ovo.
  6. Martin Adalar

    Martin Adalar New Member

    Pridružen(a):
    2. Svibanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    193
    Lajkova:
    69
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    5D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    If the application is thrown out it leaves open the option for CVR to one day run trains to Endon and beyond. Every comment or objection increases the chances of this happening.
     
    Greenway se sviđa ovo.
  7. Martin Adalar

    Martin Adalar New Member

    Pridružen(a):
    2. Svibanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    193
    Lajkova:
    69
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    5D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    NR own it but the lease allows CVR to run trains. The agreement was that nothing should be done to preclude the line to Cauldon being used for freight.
     
  8. Martin Adalar

    Martin Adalar New Member

    Pridružen(a):
    2. Svibanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    193
    Lajkova:
    69
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    5D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You only have until 4th March.
     
  9. oldmrheath

    oldmrheath Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    18. Lipanj 2006.
    Poruka:
    2,334
    Lajkova:
    2,563
    Is the lease held by CVR or Moorlands & City Railways?

    Jon
     
  10. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    12. Listopad 2018.
    Poruka:
    1,539
    Lajkova:
    649
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    W yorkshire 56f
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Well all i can say on this score about the stoke to leekbrook line how keen are C.V.R. willing to hold on to this line 1 its a mainline connection 4 C.V.R. 2it could open potential 4 a new service to leek town, 3 it could also serve as a freight line to cauldon low. 3 very good reasons i see to keep it from been built on why dont the property developers allow room 4 the line to remain useable 4 future use.
     
    The Dainton Banker and Gav106 like this.
  11. Martin Adalar

    Martin Adalar New Member

    Pridružen(a):
    2. Svibanj 2018.
    Poruka:
    193
    Lajkova:
    69
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    5D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Property developers don't make money out of railways, they make money out of buildings and developments and if they haven't had to buy the land in the first place, like on this site they can make even more profit. £££££££££££££££££££
     
  12. FJR8642

    FJR8642 Member

    Pridružen(a):
    9. Srpanj 2010.
    Poruka:
    450
    Lajkova:
    398
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    Stoke On Trent
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    mickpop, 49010, lil Bear i 8 ostalih se sviđa ovo.
  13. AnthonyTrains2017

    AnthonyTrains2017 Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    28. Rujan 2014.
    Poruka:
    2,237
    Lajkova:
    918
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  14. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    12. Listopad 2018.
    Poruka:
    1,539
    Lajkova:
    649
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    W yorkshire 56f
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Yeh well if the community think alot about the future of the leekbrook to stoke line having a future to keep the C.V.R. connected to the main line you should all band together and fight thease land developers off b4 u lot dont have a way of linking up the C.V.R. to stoke. Money talks and if u lot dont want the property developers get there wicked way to block u having access to stoke on that branch line petition it and deny them.planning permission to build on the alignment of the trackbed if ever a chance a stoke to leek town service will prevail after all network rail were granted a 150 year lease on the line unless they have been bribed to sell it off.
     
  15. Corbs

    Corbs Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    17. Srpanj 2008.
    Poruka:
    1,719
    Lajkova:
    763
    I have a question about TKh 'Hotspur' which is based at the CVR. This example seems to differ from most I have seen, it has a single large dome rather than two, and the cab and bunker are noticeably different, with a large cut-out instead of side window, curved roof, extended bunker and step-up in the running plate to the tank.
    Was this a preservation era rebuild? If so, was it done at the CVR and is the intention to do the same to the other TKh?
    Many thanks.
     
  16. lil Bear

    lil Bear Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    11. Prosinac 2006.
    Poruka:
    6,136
    Lajkova:
    1,700
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Railway Technician
    Grad:
    8C / 5D / 27C / 71B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Can't answer the dome question off the top of my head.
    But the cab and bunker were scratch built at CVR to conform to British Loading Gauge. When the time comes for 2871 restoration she too will receive similar mods.
     
    jnc se sviđa ovo.
  17. Corbs

    Corbs Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    17. Srpanj 2008.
    Poruka:
    1,719
    Lajkova:
    763
    Thank you for the prompt response Lil Bear, I think I may have seen Polish examples with the single dome (maybe the secondary one is a sand dome)?
    I think the loco looks rather handsome with the modifications.
     
    lil Bear se sviđa ovo.
  18. lil Bear

    lil Bear Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    11. Prosinac 2006.
    Poruka:
    6,136
    Lajkova:
    1,700
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Interesi:
    Railway Technician
    Grad:
    8C / 5D / 27C / 71B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    A petition will do nothing in comparison to Network Rail voicing themselves. There is a legal framework protecting the trackbed, as Wendy whatever-her-name-was found out when she tried to have the land designated as a village green. This group at Endon are going to discover the exact same truth in this instance too. Patience is just needed to let due process fall into place. The line is classified as a "Strategic Freight Route", and is legally mothballed. Just because some chancers are claiming its abandoned does not make their views true.

    And how have NR got a 150 year lease on their own line??? You are confusing the facts. Leekbrook to Cauldon was provided to MCR on a 150 Year lease. Stoke to Leek was proposed for similar but never actually followed through with, hence no trains have run to Endon (exc the annual inspections).
     
    MattA, jnc, Bluenosejohn i 1 drugoj osobi se sviđa ovo.
  19. Davo

    Davo Well-Known Member

    Pridružen(a):
    12. Listopad 2018.
    Poruka:
    1,539
    Lajkova:
    649
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    W yorkshire 56f
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    See post 1154 about the 150 year leasehold i got my wires crossed.
     
  20. huochemi

    huochemi Part of the furniture

    Pridružen(a):
    6. Svibanj 2008.
    Poruka:
    3,001
    Lajkova:
    1,521
    Spol:
    Muškarac
    Grad:
    UK
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The rear dome was a sand dome on the locos as built, as you suggest. It is not clear what the sanding arrangements are on Hotspur. At least two of the Chinese locos (XK13) were converted to tender locos, with ballast added to the running plates.
     
    Corbs se sviđa ovo.

Podijelite ovu stranicu