Fowler designs of the LMS : Royal Scot class : 6101-6149 built 1927

Until the mid-1920s, the LMS had followed the Midland Railway's small engine policy, which meant that it had no locomotives of sufficient power for its expresses on the West Coast Main Line. These trains were entrusted to pairs of LMS/MR Midland Compound 4-4-0s between Glasgow and Carnforth, and a 4-6-0 locomotive of the LNWR Claughton Class, piloted by an LNWR George V 4-4-0, southwards to Euston station .
The Operating and Motive Power Departments of the LMS were satisfied with the small engine policy. However, in 1926 the Chief Mechanical Engineer, Henry Fowler, began the design of a compound Pacific express locomotive. The management of the LMS, faced with disagreement between the CME and the other departments, obtained a loan of a GWR Castle class locomotive, Launceston Castle, which was operated for one month between Euston and Carlisle.
Following the success of the Castle 4-6-0 in working on the LMS, a decision was taken to cancel Fowler's Pacific project, and to replace it with a 4-6-0 with three cylinders and a simple-expansion steam circuit. Because there was an urgent need for new express locomotives the LMS placed an order with the North British Locomotive Company of Glasgow for 50 engines. The North British, with its extensive drawing office and two works, possessed sufficient capacity to expedite the order within a year. The Derby drawing office and North British staff collaborated in designing the class, with the latter producing the working drawings. Fowler took little part in the design process, which was carried out by Herbert Chambers, Chief Draughtsman at Derby, and his staff. The LMS requested a set of drawings of the Castle class from the GWR, but didn't receive them. Instead a set of drawings of the SR Lord Nelson Class were obtained, and used for the design of the firebox. The main features of the design followed existing Derby practice, with the cylinders and valve gear being derived from the Fowler 2-6-4T, also being designed at Derby at that time.
They were introduced without testing. Radford claims that the boiler owed much to the MR 0-10-0 Lickey Banker 'Big Bertha'. A further 20 were built by Derby Works.
They were initially named after regiments of the British Army, and after historical LNWR locomotives. Those with LNWR names were renamed in 1935 and 1936 with more names of regiments.
From late 1931, after several bizarre forms of smoke deflectors were tried on various locomotives to stop drifting smoke obscuring the crew's forward vision, the straight sided smoke deflectors were added. These were later replaced by deflectors with angled top. From 1933 the class was taken off the top-link expresses, being superseded by the LMS Princess Royal Class and later the LMS Princess Coronation Class pacifics.

This next collection features 6101-6110 built by NBL 1927


6101 Royal Scots Grey Atherstone May 1928 up 'Royal Scot'

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6101 Royal Scots Grey

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6101 Royal Scots Grey Down Liverpool express Berkhamstead

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6102 Black Watch down Royal Scot passing Carlisle Upperby c1931

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6102 Black Watch Polmadie July 1932


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6103 Royal Scots Fusilier near Carnforth Aberdeen-Euston express May 1928

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6103 Royal Scots Fusilier Berkhamstead c1928

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6103 Royal Scots Fusilier

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6104 Scottish Borderer

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6104 Scottish Borderer (piloted by 5621) Fowler Royal Scot

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6104 Scottish Borderer

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6105 Cameron Highlander


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6105 Cameron Highlander ascending Shap (through GWR coach to Glasgow)


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6106 Gordon Highlander Crewe

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6106 Gordon Highlander Oxenholme Glasagow-Plymouth express

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6107 Argyll and Sutherland Highlander

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6108 Seaforth Highlander


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6108 Seaforth Highlander up express Watford


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6109 Royal Engineer Berkhamsted c1928

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6109 Royal Engineer Crewe c1937 Fowler Royal Scot


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6109 Royal Engineer

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6110 Grenadier Guardsman Camden c1927

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6110 Grenadier Guardsman near Kenton


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6110 Grenadier Guardsman

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Neil

 

I would say that 6102 is passing Kingmoor, not Upperby. The two lines to the right are the goods lines that avoided Citadel station and the tall chimney seen in the distance will be Dixon's chimney, still a well known landmark in Carlisle. There wouldn't be such a display from the chimney if it was passing Upperby with Citadel station being only one mile away. The LNWR wagon is a bit of a red herring I admit.

 

Until the mid-1920s, the LMS had followed the Midland Railway's small engine policy, which meant that it had no locomotives of sufficient power for its expresses on the West Coast Main Line. These trains were entrusted to pairs of LMS/MR Midland Compound 4-4-0s between Glasgow and Carnforth, and a 4-6-0 locomotive of the LNWR Claughton Class, piloted by an LNWR George V 4-4-0, southwards to Euston station .
The Operating and Motive Power Departments of the LMS were satisfied with the small engine policy. However, in 1926 the Chief Mechanical Engineer, Henry Fowler, began the design of a compound Pacific express locomotive. The management of the LMS, faced with disagreement between the CME and the other departments, obtained a loan of a GWR Castle class locomotive, Launceston Castle, which was operated for one month between Euston and Carlisle.
Following the success of the Castle 4-6-0 in working on the LMS, a decision was taken to cancel Fowler's Pacific project, and to replace it with a 4-6-0 with three cylinders and a simple-expansion steam circuit. Because there was an urgent need for new express locomotives the LMS placed an order with the North British Locomotive Company of Glasgow for 50 engines. The North British, with its extensive drawing office and two works, possessed sufficient capacity to expedite the order within a year. The Derby drawing office and North British staff collaborated in designing the class, with the latter producing the working drawings. Fowler took little part in the design process, which was carried out by Herbert Chambers, Chief Draughtsman at Derby, and his staff. The LMS requested a set of drawings of the Castle class from the GWR, but didn't receive them. Instead a set of drawings of the SR Lord Nelson Class were obtained, and used for the design of the firebox. The main features of the design followed existing Derby practice, with the cylinders and valve gear being derived from the Fowler 2-6-4T, also being designed at Derby at that time.
They were introduced without testing. Radford claims that the boiler owed much to the MR 0-10-0 Lickey Banker 'Big Bertha'. A further 20 were built by Derby Works.
They were initially named after regiments of the British Army, and after historical LNWR locomotives. Those with LNWR names were renamed in 1935 and 1936 with more names of regiments.
From late 1931, after several bizarre forms of smoke deflectors were tried on various locomotives to stop drifting smoke obscuring the crew's forward vision, the straight sided smoke deflectors were added. These were later replaced by deflectors with angled top. From 1933 the class was taken off the top-link expresses, being superseded by the LMS Princess Royal Class and later the LMS Princess Coronation Class pacifics.

This next collection features 6111-6120 built by NBL 1927
6111 Royal Fusilier Shrewsbury
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6112 Sherwood Forester Rugby 23rd June 1928
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6112 Sherwood Forester
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6113 Cameronian
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6113 Cameronian with L&YR Tender
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6114 Coldstream Guardsman Fowler Royal Scot with Stanier tender
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6115 Scots Guardsman Bangor
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6115 Scots Guardsman Down Mid Day Scot Oxenholme
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6116 Irish Guardsman
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6117 Welsh Guardsman Berkhamstead c1934
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6117 Welsh Guardsman Crewe North c1947
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6118 Royal Welch Fusilier without smoke delectors
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6118 Royal Welch Fusilier with the up 'Irish Mail' Kilsby (looks like loco has been on Royal Train duty)
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6119 Lancashire Fusilier
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6119 Lancashire Fusilier passing Whitmore August 1937
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6119 Lancashire Fusilier Royal Train Carpenders Park c1933
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6120 Royal Inniskilling Fusilier nameplate
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Neil

 

https://railway-photography.smugmug...h-British-Locomotive-Company-1927/i-rS9C5sp/A = Oxenholme

https://railway-photography.smugmug...rth-British-Locomotive-Company-1927/i-97J7WLD = Crewe South / Basford Hall

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-Nh32rQD = Bushey troughs

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-LTzfW8K = Wavertree by Liverpool

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-gNfrcMF = Farington

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-4qqzj86 = Farington

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-9j8WcDp = Crewe North ?

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-Gp6XWWR = Crewe North

https://railway-photography.smugmug...lass/6100-6149-Built-1927/6111-6120/i-3FqT3ps = Perth South

Note that in this selection there are some duplicated images that could be removed

 

Picked up a very nice glass plate negative taken inside Crewe Works sometime in the 1930's of Royal Scot No 6110 Grenadier Guardsman. One of the fifty built by the NBLC Glasgow in 1927 but what is most interesting in this image is the works plate. I understand that No's 6100-24 had a diamond pattern works plate for those built by the Queens Park Works, whereas those from 6125-49 had a circular works plate on the smokebox built by the Hyde Park Works. The above photo's in the Neil Dimmer Collection of 6110 show it with the diamond works plate but in this photo we see it with the circular work plate? Can anyone tell me when 6110 was at Crewe Works? Behind No 6110 was a ex LNWR Prince of Wales Class loco. Thanks for any information Simon.