If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Lakelander 14/8/19 (Saphos Trains)

الموضوع في 'What's Going On' بواسطة Steamie Boxes, بتاريخ ‏6 أوت 2019.

  1. acw71000

    acw71000 Member Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏13 ماي 2008
    المشاركات:
    873
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,410
    مكان الإقامة:
    Liverpool
    70000 at Winwick, Woodhouse and Greenholme
     
    lappinp, Fred Kerr, 1020 Shireman و 15 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  2. KRM47827

    KRM47827 New Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏27 أوت 2011
    المشاركات:
    96
    عدد المعجبين:
    32
    الوظيفة:
    AK
    مكان الإقامة:
    Wexford
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Some of the costs of running a light engine around are absorbed by reduction in coal and water consumption plus there is better point to point performance/timekeeping reducing delay attribution risks (that is unless the steam starts starts struggling and could have used a little assistance albeit happens less when you lose circa 120t of drag on the rear/DIT). The main merits of tagging the diesel about are usually if you need it on for shunting/train supply/rescue risk/fire risk purposes (add/delete as appropriate) as most of us are aware. Each train therefore has to be weighed up on its own merits. The potentially lower number/proprtion of people travelling who won't book if diesels are in the consist on steam legs might be a commercial consideration, but would probably rarely have the final vote on the issue if the above things have to be satisfied first.

    There are no enormous margins by the time you factor in maintenance/risks/running costs of an in-house set up although there are sidelines ones' charter resources can be used for to make the overall yields of a company better, e.g traincrew hire, asset hire, maintenance contracts/restoration projects for third parties if any slack exists to offer them, which it frequently doesn't in those early days of a new TOC/stock/loco operation when staff and available assets are thinner on the ground.

    That said if you are operating in-house it's not impossible to have your singular operation overheads at as low as one third that of a promoter coming to you and running that same trip so if you can run in house whilst it's more hassle sometimes you get control over things more and can generate better yields and need a lower number of passengers to hit break even although good yields are still needed as otherwise there's no money to restore or maintain your assets or pay other bills so every train being a third full would be a quick problem. However, at least on a full train you get to keep more of the sales turnover than if its a one off hire operation to a third party.
     
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة 26D_M
  3. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏12 جوان 2008
    المشاركات:
    4,010
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,837
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Tobacco manufacturing
    مكان الإقامة:
    Kendal
    70000 in the rain at Shap Wells and near Silverdale on the return .

     
    walkerp1, Bodorganboy, 60017 و 8 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  4. Bodorganboy

    Bodorganboy Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏17 مارس 2017
    المشاركات:
    656
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,590
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    Lancaster
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer


    70000 on today's Lakelander in Lancaster
     
    acorb, nige757, Oswald T Wistle و 3 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  5. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏6 جويلية 2008
    المشاركات:
    9,120
    عدد المعجبين:
    8,116
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired from corporate slavery :o)
    مكان الإقامة:
    Fylde Coast
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    For once I didn't 'do a Winskill' and ventured out into the wet gloom to Woodacre (only 15 miles from my door). This is the result, I know, I know!! @henrywinskill :eek:

    I09A1052lr.jpg
     
    Last edited: ‏14 أوت 2019
    eggbert, acw71000, Gladiator 5076 و 19 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  6. sgthompson

    sgthompson Part of the furniture Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏12 جوان 2008
    المشاركات:
    4,010
    عدد المعجبين:
    9,837
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Tobacco manufacturing
    مكان الإقامة:
    Kendal
    That’s a cracker John with the Willow herb setting it off nicely :)
     
  7. 46223

    46223 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏10 إبريل 2011
    المشاركات:
    6,723
    عدد المعجبين:
    6,392
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    Lancs
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    You're a brave man, I hope you had your brolly with you.
     
  8. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏6 جويلية 2008
    المشاركات:
    9,120
    عدد المعجبين:
    8,116
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired from corporate slavery :o)
    مكان الإقامة:
    Fylde Coast
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The only good thing I can say about it is, the rods are down LOL.
     
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة sgthompson
  9. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏6 جويلية 2008
    المشاركات:
    9,120
    عدد المعجبين:
    8,116
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired from corporate slavery :o)
    مكان الإقامة:
    Fylde Coast
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Nah...but looking on the bright side, since losing over 4 stones, there is plenty of room for my camera inside the front of my waterproof jacket! :Updated:
     
    Haighie, Bluenosejohn و 46223 معجبون بهذا.
  10. Shep Woolley

    Shep Woolley Well-Known Member Friend

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏21 فبراير 2007
    المشاركات:
    2,331
    عدد المعجبين:
    10,580
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Retired
    Lakelander Brit 2b.jpg

    'Britannia' lays down the power as it heads the 'Lakelander' through Benson Hall towards Grayrigg in very wet conditions

    Lakelander Brit 3b.jpg

    No. 70000 'Britannia' comes to a stand at Thwaite Flat near Dalton in Furness while awaiting the road with the return leg of the 'Lakelander' to Crewe
     
    Lym Flyer, jackshepherd, 46223 و 14 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  11. nige757

    nige757 Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏28 إبريل 2018
    المشاركات:
    673
    عدد المعجبين:
    4,827
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    retired
    مكان الإقامة:
    kendal
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    70000 seen at a dismal Shap Wells then later at Silverdale.

     
    1020 Shireman, 26D_M, sgthompson و 1 شخص آخر معجبون بهذا.
  12. walkerp1

    walkerp1 New Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏27 مارس 2008
    المشاركات:
    196
    عدد المعجبين:
    1,530
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    West Lancashire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  13. Nigel Day

    Nigel Day Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏17 مارس 2015
    المشاركات:
    275
    عدد المعجبين:
    715
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    الوظيفة:
    Steam loco engineer
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Carlisle image.jpeg image.jpeg
     
    sgthompson, acw71000, MikeParkin65 و 9 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  14. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏12 ماي 2006
    المشاركات:
    19,346
    عدد المعجبين:
    17,834
    الجنس:
    ذكر
    مكان الإقامة:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I think it looks great, considerably better than my dismal effort from Wraysholme which was rapidly deleted, the 6 year old (who wisely turned down the offer to venture out with me and get wet) had to do with watching some videos on You Tube!
     
    أعجب بهذه المشاركة 60017
  15. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏17 جويلية 2007
    المشاركات:
    3,003
    عدد المعجبين:
    4,486
    مكان الإقامة:
    Powys
    It was a very good day out yesterday which we thoroughly enjoyed. Saphos, as ever were excellent.

    When given the opportunity, 70000 put on brilliant displays of power and fast running. The paths were very stop start, but still gave opportunity for the loco to show her paces. The climb of Grayrigg was frustrating, as it was developing into something quite special before the loco was eased for the loop. Shap was another good effort, with a minimum of 33.5mph in challenging conditions. The descent to Carlisle contained much braking to contain enthusiasm, but with lots of running in the mid/high seventies, it was sufficient to turn a 5 min late departure into a similarly early arrival. This was much appreciated by all, considering the shortened break!
    Throughout the day, late service trains threatened to spoil Britannia's timekeeping, throughout the day she kept clawing back any delays - she was superb, with very noisy accelerations that were audible in the air conditioned coach 10 back!
    330 miles of unassisted steam, lots of fast running, good hill climbing and timekeeping - the Cumbrian Coast looked mean and moody, even the sun made an appearance briefly! We even saw some train spotting seals!
    Thanks to all involved, especially the effort to retime the return, we for one were very grateful for the 19:30 arrival.
     
    30567, staffordian, Jontie و 12 آخرون معجبون بهذا.
  16. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏17 جويلية 2007
    المشاركات:
    3,003
    عدد المعجبين:
    4,486
    مكان الإقامة:
    Powys
    Thanks for posting this, was hoping someone would be filming here - 76mph on the GPS!
     
  17. 46229

    46229 New Member

    إنضم إلينا في:
    ‏17 يناير 2017
    المشاركات:
    63
    عدد المعجبين:
    165
    مكان الإقامة:
    Toddington
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Agree 100%. Superb day out. Very professional and slick operation from Saphos/LSL, both on board and operating the train - getting Britannia coaled, watered and serviced in just over an hour at Carlisle was a tremendous effort. Britannia is a real beast at the moment and a very impressive machine indeed. The climb to Grayrigg was indeed something special, we were still doing 75 at Milnthorpe, 59 at Oxenholme and holding 50 past Hay Fell before easing for the loop.
     
    Oswald T Wistle, Mick45305, acorb و 1 شخص آخر معجبون بهذا.

مشاركة هذه الصفحة