If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Greatest Mileage in Service

Тема в разделе 'Steam Traction', создана пользователем GWR4707, 1 окт 2019.

  1. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.002
    Симпатии:
    2.477
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    And on another thread you are saying how much superior Thompson's Pacifics were to anything made....
     
  2. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 мар 2011
    Сообщения:
    1.770
    Симпатии:
    2.170
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    To pick up on a tangential point of dozens of posts ago, I believe there really was a marked drop off in workshop standards at the time of Webb's retirement, and this wasn't really sorted until Beames was able to make major changes during LMS days.
    In fact, it caused something of a crisis because Webb locos were being withdrawn so quickly, that despite the new Whale engines being built, the reduction in engine availability brought about a bit of a motive power crisis.
    Whatever Webb's failings, he ran a tight ship and his workshops were absolutely top notch. The duo of Whale and Trevithick who took over seem to have taken their antipathy to his ideas rather too far, with the result of this crisis.
    (All this is from memory, I'm afraid, as haven't got the relevant books handy, but pretty sure it's about right).
    Hence it's quite possible that workshop standards at Crewe in the Webb era really were good enough to keep an engine in service almost every weekday for a decade, with some weekend hot work.
    Nevertheless, I am also of the opinion that the loco which ran the two million miles may have had some major identity fluidity during the period...
    (Not dissimilar to many of our preserved locos).

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
     
    LMS2968 и Bluenosejohn нравится это.
  3. Hermod

    Hermod Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    6 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.109
    Симпатии:
    317
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Klitmoeller,Denmark
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  4. 60017

    60017 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    6 июл 2008
    Сообщения:
    9.103
    Симпатии:
    8.072
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Retired from corporate slavery :o)
    Адрес:
    Fylde Coast
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Matt37401, ross и Jamessquared нравится это.
  5. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    8 мар 2008
    Сообщения:
    27.800
    Симпатии:
    64.480
    Адрес:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Ah, but did this fabled Peppercorn achieve 2,000,000 miles per week per loco on an average availability (Sunday’s excepted) of 1,500% while achieving coal consumption of 0.2oz per seat-mile and a whole class per mile lifetime maintenance cost of fourpence three-farthings?

    Tom
     
    jnc, andrewshimmin, Jimc и 4 другим нравится это.
  6. Eightpot

    Eightpot Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    10 авг 2006
    Сообщения:
    8.340
    Симпатии:
    2.506
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Engineer Emeritus
    Адрес:
    Aylesbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Did anyone else manage to achieve anything like these figures?
     
  7. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.002
    Симпатии:
    2.477
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    But that achievement of 3,200,000 km per veek, vith coal consommption of 3.54g/km could only haff been achieved by a chapelon 4-8-0 utilizing exhaust steam compounding unt elesco feedwater heaters operating at a maximum speed of 128 km/hr.
     
    Jimc, andrewshimmin и Matt37401 нравится это.
  8. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    8 мар 2008
    Сообщения:
    27.800
    Симпатии:
    64.480
    Адрес:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Mr L.H. Cotter's fabled 16 3/4 inch double bogie singles with booster tenders exceeded those figures while employed on the legendary three hour Scottish Little Meddling to Much Snoring flyers, a service that included the hard running along the flank of Glen Close and over the shoulder of Ben Fogle - a route that was sadly closed following the great St Simon Garfunkel's day disaster of 1883 when a surge of floodwater through the Rous-Marten Burn caused the Bridge over Troubled Waters to collapse into the Mull of IgTawney just as the evening flyer ran across. (An occurrence that led to the famous William Mcgonagall poem "The poor timing from Rous-Marten")

    Seasoned observers from Ahrons to Sekon to Nock believe the like of such running was approached neither before nor since, nor possibly even during.

    Tom
     
    Last edited: 13 окт 2019
    Romsey, 8126, Steve и 10 другим нравится это.
  9. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.002
    Симпатии:
    2.477
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Why can't I like this more than once
     
  10. Eightpot

    Eightpot Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    10 авг 2006
    Сообщения:
    8.340
    Симпатии:
    2.506
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Engineer Emeritus
    Адрес:
    Aylesbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm given to understand that this included a scheduled 10 minute stop at Hielantfling for haggis shooting (during the season) using Baggenpipen modified especially for the purpose in a secret patented draughtless kilt factory in Scunthorpe by skilled Loch Ness monsters.
     
  11. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Дата регистрации:
    7 окт 2006
    Сообщения:
    12.732
    Симпатии:
    11.848
    Род занятий:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    Адрес:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Flipping 'eck, Tom, I used to think my home brew was potent stuff but yours has got to be at least one order of magnitude more potent. You have been drinking the stuff, haven't you?
     
    LMS2968, Jamessquared и Bluenosejohn нравится это.
  12. LesterBrown

    LesterBrown Member

    Дата регистрации:
    20 янв 2009
    Сообщения:
    995
    Симпатии:
    761
    Адрес:
    Devon
    Mis-post, corrected below
     
  13. LesterBrown

    LesterBrown Member

    Дата регистрации:
    20 янв 2009
    Сообщения:
    995
    Симпатии:
    761
    Адрес:
    Devon
    Wasn't that Brunel's specification for the original GWR broad gauge locos?
     
    Jamessquared нравится это.
  14. LMS2968

    LMS2968 Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    1 сен 2006
    Сообщения:
    3.072
    Симпатии:
    5.361
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Lecturer retired: Archivist of Stanier Mogul Fund
    Адрес:
    Wigan
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'll agree with all tht but with some reservations about the last sentence.
     
  15. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 мар 2011
    Сообщения:
    1.770
    Симпатии:
    2.170
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    To be fair, my last sentence was rather a stretch, I mainly said it to be provocative!

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
     
  16. LMS2968

    LMS2968 Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    1 сен 2006
    Сообщения:
    3.072
    Симпатии:
    5.361
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Lecturer retired: Archivist of Stanier Mogul Fund
    Адрес:
    Wigan
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Well done! It worked!
     

Поделиться этой страницей