Betton Grange

Well that's my Monday morning off to a deflated start!! There I was thinking that there must be exciting news regarding BG if the thread suddenly increased by three pages..... nope, just thread drift.....

 

Yes and guess whose contributed to it! You OK mate?

 

Hopefully 6880 will have its boiler back in the frames and being close to be finished off by Christmas; a very good present for the owning group! I am aware that a new tender tank and some other tender fittings are required but it's definitely getting there!

 

I would imagine that the tender will not hold her back, there are plenty of GWR tenders knocking about for temporary use?

 

They've already hired the tender from 3814 to use with 6880 until her own is rebuilt.

Keith

 

from head on , there is /was a difference in the height of the smokebox in the saddle .

The Scots s/b is the lowest , Pats next and the 2 Jubs were highest

the tricky one was 6170 , with it's swept back steam pipes

 

I don't ever remember seeing a red Scot - and I only missed two.

Black 5s v/s Jubilees - Jubs had splashers . that's all you need to know - and of course the sound of a Jubilee was unmitakeable

 

More than "a few" of the LNWR 0-8-0s were built as compounds - 280 built in 1892-1904 in Class A (3-cyl) and Class B (4-cyl) versions. About 260 were in due course rebuilt as 2-cyl simples, with the balance scrapped as compounds during the 1920s.

The rebuilds evolved through 3 different boiler sizes and the later addition of superheaters, with a number also going through a temporary 2-8-0 phase. Most eventually ended-up within Class G1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotives_of_the_London_and_North_Western_Railway

 

Very interesting. I've always liked the appearance of the LNWR 0-8-0s.
Anyway, back to the excellent "Enginemens' Engine", the Grange. In BR days, most of them ran with Collett 4000 gallon tenders. Here's an image from my collection of 6860, Aberporth Grange, at Weymouth Shed in 1961 .

 

Thanks for sharing this great photo kinghambranch! I`ve always had a soft spot for the 4-6-0.

Knut

 

Because in the examples you give, the nature of the locomotive is very different despite those points of similarity. However, the partisanship is absolutely real.

 

At the risk of keeping this thread somewhat closer to the subject heading, here is another Grange from my collection: this is 6819 Highnam Grange leaving Weymouth in 1961. The loco has a Collett 4000 gallon tender and is not exactly in a pristine state. The Isle of Portland can be seen in the distance.

 

Just watching the news about the new section of A14 and a report on the traffic jams in Godmanchester, and there was a chap interviewed wearing a 6880 Betton Grange fleece!

 

Oh no! The Western is coming east!

 

That’ll be Richy P then! He lives in Godmanchester, and has a lot to do with 5199 and 6880.

 

Not one of mine but here's - 6877 Llanfair Grange at Banbury in 1964

 

Strangely this thread has not been updated with the significant boiler progress, hydraulic test, steam test at the end of 2019 and boiler lift into frames in march 2020, just before the C-19 shutdown.

 

That's a fair point, that's not been reported here....

They have reported it on their website though for anyone who (very unlikely) didn't see that... http://www.6880.co.uk/news/

 

A update on 6880 betton Granges tender that is going to be loaned off 3814 ex G.W.R. 2.8.0. according to rail advent the restoration of this tender can't be completed on time for 6880 betton grange launch later this year and has put funding running in revenue in jeopardy for 6880 betton Grange society now that it may not have its 1st steaming on time but wherever 3814 has been moved to the group restoring that engine are still taking donations for the full restoration of 3814 and its tender due to be loaned for 6880 it says on rail advents page on this issue.
Davo 56F

 

If I am reading this correct (it ain't easy) not sure what the problem is, if the 6880 group have a contract for the 3814 group to rent their tender and 3814 lot are breaking it as they can't supply on the required date, can't they just hire a GWR tender from elsewhere there are plenty knocking about attached to out of ticket locomotives, if nothing else sure GWS will have one knocking about if necessary, likewise Betton is at Tyseley as is Rood Ashton Hall with a tender for instance?