Rolling Stock For Sale

This was the vehicle listing concerned:

Its original Cambrian number was either 176 or 178
The GWR allocated 4070 and 4072 respectively
Both were withdrawn from trafficin May 1936


Cambrian Bow Ended Observation Saloon (scrapped)





Present Location Lands End (scrapped)
County Location Cornwall
Designed For Cambrian
Type TZ
Gauge 4ft 8 1/2in
Wheel Arrangement Body only
Original Underframe No
Original Bogies/Wheelsets No
Additional Notes Bow ended observation carriage rebuilt from one of the 6 wheel thirds c 1916. The body of this vehicle was used as a summer-house on a cliff top near Land's End. Scrapped by 09/05.
Owner Private
Rarity Unique
Historical Importance Very Important
Storage Open
Operating No
At Risk No
Date Record Last Updated 18/09/2016


Apparently the owner was building a new property on the land at the time

 

Council planners can sometimes do something. I know a case in Worcestershire where an ex- Midland Railway coach had been lived in, the owner died and the executors applied for redevelopment. The Council got the retention and conservation of the coach a requirement of planning permission. Don't know how it turned out though, but it's worth knowing when cases turn up. There is a market for character properties in attractive locations, which this one was.
Retention of a structure for subsequent conservation elsewhere can similarly be a requirement: usually for timber-framed buildings but I see no reason it couldn't apply to a carriage body.

 

Just seen that a Gresley BTO is for sale, listed on Carriage Exchange.
http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=861
http://www.carriage-exchange.org.uk/stock.htm

 

It's not a BTO I had a look in it some years ago. It is some sort of semi open (looking at where partitions have been removed). It's a Great Northern, a very early Gresley and the underframe has very serious corrosion of the underframe.

That said it is an interesting carriage and deserving of restoration but it's one for somebody with deep pockets if they want to do it properly.

Sawdust.

 

Probably worth the asking price for the teak that's on it!

 

Is there anything similar to it elsewhere? A brake semi-open sounds a lot like the Bulleid coach at Swanage (S4365)

 

We have a Gresley underframe of the same type, and which has minimal corrosion, available at Llangollen for next to nothing.

Bob.

 

For Sale BR DRA 81547 Heavy Duty Crane built 1958

For Sale BR Heavy Duty Crane, this vehicle is now surplus to requirement and available for sale. Currently located on the Gwili Raliway this vehicle is in operational condition and is currently LOLER certified.

http://www.ws.rhrp.org.uk/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=16139

For further information contact James Buckley on 07495 409291 or jamesbuckley @ evan-evans.com

 

It's a shame it is such silly money. Looking at the pictures I suspect it is ex Midland and M&GN and is the same as this one at Whitwell and Reepham http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=6203

 

And now for something completely different.......
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/...0619/lot-8f54552e-6d25-4233-be7e-ac0600cc3aa9

Donated by the Berlin Senate to the British Army......and now for sale in Hull.....
Bit like the Krefeld trams given to Leicester that ended up at the GCR!

 

Tempting, as is the star item of the auction.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/...0619/lot-de133d6c-3cbe-44b4-bf34-ac0600cb36d7

Not sure the missus would appreciate that for her birthday though!

 

Hadn't realised that was up for sale as well!
Another item that has had a rather chequered preservation history - but it is a bit on the large size for most places.......

 

Is her name Berverley? That might provide the beginnings of a justification. “Look Beverley darling, for your birthday I’ve bought you something beautiful with your name on it”. (Beverley swoons imagining pretty silver necklace inlaid with jewels. Husband meanwhile is investigating low cost hanger space on local airfields and farms ...)

Tom

 

I can’t see much problem in buying it or even finding somewhere to display it. It’s how you comply with the small print: “Buyer to remove......”

 

In connection with the small print stating "the Buyer is responsible for removal". I've seen a couple of YouTube videos showing one of the Canadian Aviation groups dismantling an Avro Lancaster into it's component parts/sections, for transportation to another site for restoration. They are/were quite interesting, as the Lancaster is made in a series of modular parts, which are to a degree easy to dismember for replacement of damaged parts etc.

 

I think my wife (not a Beverley) would be looking up divorce lawyers were I to try...


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I note from Carriage Exchange that an Inspection Saloon, presently based on the WSR, is up for sale:
http://www.carriage-exchange.org.uk/stock.htm
http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=15546

 

A number of Bluebell carriages have been listed as "for sale" in the carriage stock list, as follows:

Pullman car No. 76 - https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/car76.html

LMS design sleeping cars:
https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/398.html
https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/603.html
https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/623.html

Mark 1 composite sleeping car
https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/staff_qos.html

Not listed as for sale, but my understanding is that the Maunsell TPO is also for sale: https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/tpo_4922.html

Tom

 

There's a Grampus showing up as for Disposal too. I did inquire as it mentioned possibly being broken for spares, but never heard back.
https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/wagons/grampus984506.html

 

That's a shame about the LMS sleepers. I completely understand the logic of taking on the ex-Caledonian Sleeper Mk IIIs which I presume will replace them, but one cannot help worrying that these will soon be "at risk" if no other heritage railway has a use for them.

Possibly a silly question but I wonder whether it would be feasible to convert them into day coaches? After all, the SVR has done that with one of its Gresley pigeon vans, and you could always cheat a bit and use modern fittings for the interior (perhaps even from all those Mk IVs that are currently going to the scrapheap!). Certainly a big compromise in heritage terms, but surely better than seeing them scrapped altogether?