If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

West Somerset Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    7,522
    Likes Received:
    5,499
    Yes as explained in a previous post - the reason is due to a loco shortage at Llangollen along with a lack of steaming opportunities at the WSR.

    While unfortunate that 7822 has seen a lot of a low loader lately it’s hardly the issue that some people seem to be making of it, rather a set of circumstances have given an unforeseen opportunity for the Foxcote group to raise some funds via steaming fees while helping a railway out that is in need.

    It’s no different to hiring one of the Bodmin panniers which if they had no one would of battered an eyelid.
     
  2. Thompson1706

    Thompson1706 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2007
    Messages:
    2,443
    Likes Received:
    1,848
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Rhiwabon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    We had a mechanical problem with 3802 ,which left us with industrial loco 'Jennifer' as our only working steam loco. Large Prairie 5199 is currently having its brakes put back together and will be available soon.
    With regard to the circumstances as to why 7822 left Llangollen when it did I am not prepared to make any comment, although others might know the story.

    Bob.
     
    JBTEvans and johnofwessex like this.
  3. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    10,467
    Likes Received:
    18,036
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm inclined to agree, just one of those things where the optics and timings have been unfortunate. I suppose you could argue it would have been more agreeable for 7822 not to have returned to Minehead in the first place given it was known at the time the limited steaming opportunities it would get, but if the contract was signed and the WSR was asking for it back (very politely I'm sure) then I guess there wasn't much other choice.

    Ah well, the postponement of the AGM is potentially more interesting. Is my memory playing tricks on me or was the Plc AGM supposed to coincide with the WSRA and/or WSSRT AGMs? I await the reason given with interest, given the postponed meeting is still planned to be online only, so COVID-19 can't be an excuse.
     
  4. D1039

    D1039 Guest

    Yes, particularly as the guidance suggests the legal exemption for attendees only runs to 30th September.

    Patrick
     
  5. Triumph 2500S

    Triumph 2500S Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,066
    Likes Received:
    933
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Swindon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Which they will have to set up, of course.

    I assume by implication they were and cannot be ready for such an event at the end of September?
     
  6. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    10,467
    Likes Received:
    18,036
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    So just to spell it out in black and white, assuming what @Barrie the Beer has relate here is accurate (no reason to believe not) the Plc's current plan to delay the AGM until November but still have it as a virtual meeting wouldn't appear to be allowed within the rules? What about the delay itself, if it was delayed to allow a physical meeting, is that within the rules?
     
  7. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    25,742
    Likes Received:
    24,352
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Not just rules but law.
     
    Barrie the Beer and jnc like this.
  8. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    10,467
    Likes Received:
    18,036
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Yes well, I get a bit nervous suggesting a company has broken the law on a public forum, calling it rules makes it feel less risky to write, I expect a threatening letter in the post shortly to prove me wrong!
     
  9. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    8,136
    Likes Received:
    5,216
    That explains why the loco isn't staying at Minehead but not why anyone felt a visit was necessary at all, if contracts can be ignored.
     
    Matt37401 likes this.
  10. Lineisclear

    Lineisclear Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2020
    Messages:
    744
    Likes Received:
    1,135
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Worcestershire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The deadline for the AGM of a public limited company is a combination of law and any provision in the Company’s articles such as the AGM must be held within 18 months of the previous one. From memory I believe the legal requirement is that the AGM must be held within six months of the company’s accounting reference date ( the end of its financial year).
    The current Covid 19 relaxation enabling companies to extend deadlines and hold virtual meetings are due to expire on 30th September but may be extended. Given the continuing social distancing requirements and limits on public gatherings it seems a pretty safe bet that they will be.
     
  11. gwilialan

    gwilialan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2012
    Messages:
    1,673
    Likes Received:
    3,953
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Out there somewhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    So how is the voting going to be carried out? Who / how will the two independent tellers be appointed to count the votes?

    I hope it's not going to be like the USA's conspiracy theories event - oops, sorry - election... :eek:

    How's the post down there? :D
     
  12. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    7,522
    Likes Received:
    5,499
    Because Minehead was to be its home base, where else was it supposed to of gone?
     
  13. JBTEvans

    JBTEvans Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2008
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    684
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Casnewydd, De Cymru
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    7822 didn't arrive from Llangollen a few weeks ago. It got caught out with lockdown when moving to the WSR in March and was in an unnamed storage location, I believe.
     
  14. Andy Williams

    Andy Williams Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    862
    Likes Received:
    931
    Occupation:
    Design Engineer
    Location:
    Shropshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I believe that you are incorrect. There is a photo of 7822 at Minehead on 1st August. It arrived in July for some mechanical work to be carried out.
     
    malcolm imps likes this.
  15. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    7,522
    Likes Received:
    5,499
    They used it at the 2nd Minehead weekend as well.
     
    malcolm imps likes this.
  16. JBTEvans

    JBTEvans Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2008
    Messages:
    2,385
    Likes Received:
    684
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Casnewydd, De Cymru
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    It didn't leave Llangollen in July is what I am on about, it came from elsewhere as it was originally heading for the WSR in March but then nobody could unload it due to lockdown.
     
    ross likes this.
  17. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,439
    Likes Received:
    855
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Wessex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Pony Express. :rolleyes:
     
    Blackdown Boy likes this.
  18. The delay is claimed to be "Due to the impact of Covid-19" as reported in August edition of The Platform (WSR newsletter). Easily accessible via wsr.org.uk
     
  19. Bayard

    Bayard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2015
    Messages:
    1,826
    Likes Received:
    3,871
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Where is "elsewhere"? Obviously, as soon as Foxcote manor could move again, legally, the haulier would want her out of their yard. If the WSR was close by, it would make sense for her to go there.
     
  20. Snifter

    Snifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    4,210
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Would that be the same Covid-19 that has not impacted the dates of the WSSRT and WSRA AGMs as far as I know ? Similarly, the date for the departure of the S&D trust has not been impacted. If they are expected to clear the Washford site by a certain date while in the middle of a global pandemic then surely a two hour online meeting is do-able ?
     
    MellishR, jnc, nine elms fan and 3 others like this.

Share This Page